I’d say solidly GenZ. Thinking that everybody else is stuck in the vortex of lies but you have now broken free by [doing something only marginally different]. The kind of idealism you see in youth. Fediverse apps help with some of the problems we see in other social media, but ultimately it’s a new diet, same shit.
Ironically Plato takes this into account in his allegory. There are lots of levels to “knowledge” (which he equated with goodness); we could be in the same spot just with our heads turned, or right behind the wall, or outside the cave but looking at the reflections in the water. And in each stage everyone believes they’re right and that they know the truth (except maybe in the last one). Honestly I think with fedi we just managed to turn our heads.
We did. Keep in mind that the explosion of growth on Lemmy is mostly made up of people that lost their apps due to the API rule changes, the ones that were opinionated and engaged enough to be selecting a 3rd party solution. So, Lemmy just got bombed with the loudest and most self-righteous of reddit users that now loudly circlejerk about how much better Lemmy is. In reality, all we have is a less diverse crowd of really loud people. Same shit, different platform.
Fediverse makes improvements on existing social media formats, but there are so many issues inherent to online social media that cannot be fixed by slightly changing the format.
Short-term, consequence-free interaction with strangers is not a substitute for actual social interaction, but it’s become one of the default modes of socialization in the modern world. It’s a bell that can’t be un-rung, but moving from reddit to lemmy isn’t going to mute it in any significant way either.
We are in complete agreement about the “value” of social media — very little. The real value as you imply is in-person humans making kind conversation in physical environments. Let’s do that.
I’m really only here because I want to participate in the fall of Reddit — but just moments ago I was having a coffee with five close face to face friends — that’s where it’s really happening.
I’d say solidly GenZ. Thinking that everybody else is stuck in the vortex of lies but you have now broken free by [doing something only marginally different]. The kind of idealism you see in youth. Fediverse apps help with some of the problems we see in other social media, but ultimately it’s a new diet, same shit.
Ironically Plato takes this into account in his allegory. There are lots of levels to “knowledge” (which he equated with goodness); we could be in the same spot just with our heads turned, or right behind the wall, or outside the cave but looking at the reflections in the water. And in each stage everyone believes they’re right and that they know the truth (except maybe in the last one). Honestly I think with fedi we just managed to turn our heads.
We did. Keep in mind that the explosion of growth on Lemmy is mostly made up of people that lost their apps due to the API rule changes, the ones that were opinionated and engaged enough to be selecting a 3rd party solution. So, Lemmy just got bombed with the loudest and most self-righteous of reddit users that now loudly circlejerk about how much better Lemmy is. In reality, all we have is a less diverse crowd of really loud people. Same shit, different platform.
Reddit is about cynicism— Fediverse is about progress. Optimism.
I’m a later comer here I think but I know everyone here met a great deal of disappointment in the redddit collapse.
What if we rebuild together — something that lives up to the possibilities?
You sound like the CEO at my old company 🤣
Fediverse makes improvements on existing social media formats, but there are so many issues inherent to online social media that cannot be fixed by slightly changing the format.
Short-term, consequence-free interaction with strangers is not a substitute for actual social interaction, but it’s become one of the default modes of socialization in the modern world. It’s a bell that can’t be un-rung, but moving from reddit to lemmy isn’t going to mute it in any significant way either.
We are in complete agreement about the “value” of social media — very little. The real value as you imply is in-person humans making kind conversation in physical environments. Let’s do that.
I’m really only here because I want to participate in the fall of Reddit — but just moments ago I was having a coffee with five close face to face friends — that’s where it’s really happening.