• willya@lemmyf.uk
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    9 months ago

    If you were actually harassing somebody I couldn’t care less. When you’re banned what does that look like though? Can you not view anything?

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      9 months ago

      Your account still works, you can still view everything (excluding those that have blocked you), but you have a banner at the top that says you’re banned and you can’t vote, post or comment. You can’t send messages or use chat either.

      You can still edit your previous comments and posts.

      Justified or not, reddit have clearly stepped up their banning protocols, around 6 months or so ago or maybe even late last year (ie before the planned API price rise, well before even the announcements).

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        9 months ago

        Well then I’d like OP to share his comment history with us.

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          If they’re banned, then you won’t see their comments on their profile, just a banned icon. They might not see them on their own profile either on new reddit, however they can still access their profile on old reddit. This shows 1,000 comments in each list (New, Top, Hot, Controversial, with the date filters) but not necessarily everything.

          Incidentally, the tools most people used to edit/delete their reddit history only targeted these lists, so they’d quite often miss things - if you had a profile with lots of comments over a long time, with old comments that had low but not controversial karma, then these wouldn’t end up in your profile lists. As of late 2022/early 2023. Aside from all the comments reddit restored after people deleted (which they blamed on their CDN issues, as if that somehow absolved them), many people thought they’d deleted everything but in fact they’d left plenty of comments behind. They then deleted their accounts and now cannot access them, the vast majority are probably unaware.

          You should still be able to see their comments and posts where they are, so long as they haven’t been removed. However whatever got them banned was no doubt also removed.

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            9 months ago

            Even if you’re banned, you can still make GDPR requests, which Reddit is required to comply with. They include your entire comment history.

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              Yep, and, at least until the API change, you could feed that into tools to make sure you got all of them. I didn’t see any of the comments I deleted in this way restored, however I did see comments restored when using the tools on my profile.

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          Why? Even in a world where OP is an asshole Reddit should still tell you what comment is getting you banned and give you the opportunity to dispute it. That’s the main problem here, unilateral decisions you never have any insight on.

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            True, but I hate getting people riled up and commenting, if in the end this guy was actually just a POS.

            Edit: The web archive history shows they post in all the same type of communities and like talking about all of the same stuff that will get you the same end result here on Lemmy. Just seems like a human thing at this point when discussing politics/gender/sexuality. Like most other places it seems to take just a handful of people reporting you and you’re gone.

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        LMFAO.

        “Your account still works”

        lists all the many many ways your account no longer works

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          Lol yeah. But mainly you still have all your subscribed subreddits, multireddits and all that. Going from the front page of an account you’ve built up over many years to the latest default reddit can be a bit of a shock.

          Like I say though, the more annoying thing is the way it’s supposed to be a passive reddit experience, but all the buttons for voting and replying are still there. Yet, if you click them you get a pop up reminding you, and you can’t scroll again until you dismiss it. They should just remove the buttons.

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            IMO those are the least important aspects of an account. It takes very little time to resub to a list of subs you have right in front of you and turn them into a new multi. Overall the way bigger issue here is: everyone get the fuck off Reddit it’s fucking trash.

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              It takes very little time to resub to a list of subs you have right in front of you and turn them into a new multi.

              Depends how many subreddits. There are maybe tools around to make it a little easier, but you have to find them and dig them out of github.

              everyone get the fuck off Reddit it’s fucking trash.

              Yes to reddit being trash, but I wouldn’t be so exclusive. Sometimes you need to dig through the trash. Just be sure to remember that it’s trash, and wash yourself afterwards.

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                I can’t fathom going back to being a user there, it’s just too abusive and such a bad experience, but I’ll use old threads that come up on Google for their information, sure.

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                  It’s very easy to fall into the habit of reading a conversation and wanting to chime in. But yeah, the nature of the conversation on reddit has definitely changed over the years. The irony is that this is probably somewhat astroturfed to “increase user engagement”, when it is ultimately driving users away.

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      9 months ago

      Reddit admins’ definition of harassment now includes singular insults if the admin is feeling particularly power-trippy. Doesn’t even have to be a swear word, my last alt got permabanned for calling someone (who I’d never interacted with before) a moron.

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      Sounds like you’ve never been banned in Reddit. You don’t realise how differently mods on power trip understand the word “harrassment”. Or anything else.

      Reddit is a trash place in general.

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        The message and the is sitewide and from reddit. Subreddit mods weren’t involved

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        You’re right. I haven’t been banned on Reddit. I was more of a lurker though. Didn’t participate in any political/sexuality/gender things either.

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        I was permanently banned on my first account of 11 years for saying “everyone would want to punch Nazis”, no prior issues ever, the appeal was instantly rejected. I was permanently banned on my next account for making the mistake of saying I was banned on my other account about 2 years after the fact. From that point on I was fully IP banned so I could only use Reddit with a VPN made account. If I ever accidentally logged in on my computer because I forgot, even years later, instantly banned. All because I said Nazis should get punched. As far as I’m concerned, this all started when China got involved in Reddit via Tencent and Ellen Pao. Reddit just, BY TOTAL RANDOM COINCIDENCE, became super defensive about anything China or communist related and started handing out bans any time people said no no words (sounds like TikTok to me.)

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            No they don’t. I can say that with confidence as it happened several times. The reason was always “ban evasion” and there were several months in between. So either someone else used the IP in that time and got banned and refreshed it, or you’re just wrong.

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              Huh.

              I had the same thing happen. Even a ten year account I didn’t use was included and any I made for a few weeks. So I left new qccounts alone and only used my banned account to view for quite awhile, then decided to make another account one day and it’s been working fine for quite a few months now. I made sure to not add all the same subs I used to have and just slowly integrated what I wanted back in.

              Maybe it was longer than a couple months now that I think about it, but I still think there is a limit.

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        About 3 months ago I was banned for saying “People have the right to use like force to defend themselves against an attacker, including using deadly force. It’s not a happy outcome. But neither is being a victim.” It was a comment on an article about a homeowner who killed a burglar, so context is king. /r/news banned me and reported me for “threatening violence”. Then I got an account warning (whatever that means) by Reddit.

        When I contacted the admin team, I got a ban for abusive reporting.

        %reddit%.com is now blocked in my DNS. Fuck those fucks, they don’t even deserve my ad revenue from searches.

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          Reddit has a strict nonviolence in comments policy, whether it be in support of self defence, or defence of others. Exclusions apply to some extent in supporting state sanctioned police and military violence.

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            And then they turn around and host tons of fight subs showing video of people getting the tar beat out of them. If that’s what adults want to watch then more power to them but so much for the whole “no mentions of violence are allowed” rule.

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            they’re not OK with violence except this type of violence which is an overwhelming type of violence

            But yeah fr fr they only reason they banned /thedickhead is because they started going after the cops. Extremely mask off considering all the other shit they said leading up to that point was way more violent but it was against people they didn’t like so it was permissible.

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            It’s not that strict. There was a thread full of people advocating the torture and murder of HP printer executives for their printer bullshit and nothing happened to any of them. I know because I was banned the day before for saying something similar about child molesters and kept an eye on that thread. I asked what the difference was in my appeal and just got their canned response that the ban was going to be upheld. Reddit admins care about specifically creating a safe space for child molesters… for some reason…

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            Yet they let the post about the break in and shooting be posted. You just can’t comment on what was in the post? How stupid Reddit has become.

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          I said that I would smack someone from a story, and clearly in a figurative way. Banned for promoting physical violence. Okay?

          (I’ve never hit anyone ever, by the way.)