• gayhitler420@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Are you though?

    Do you own the means of production and employ people to operate it, paying them a fraction of the value their labor produces?

    Are you able to live comfortably without working for the foreseeable future? Do you exert outsized control over municipal, regional and state government far beyond your “vote” if you live in a place that claims to be a democracy? Does that control come from your power over the means of production that you control?

    Supporting a society controlled by the people described above does not make you a capitalist, being one of the people described above does.

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      1 year ago

      Are you able to live comfortably without working for the foreseeable future?

      I’m pretty sure that’s just a strawman version of capitalism. Plenty of capitalists who had their life’s work taken during a communist revolution and were at best told they could come back as a manager worked plenty hard. Didn’t save them.

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      The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…

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        I don’t think you’re being disingenuous here and English is a crazy language, so here’s the definition google came up with:

        noun: capitalist; plural noun: capitalists a wealthy person who uses money to invest in trade and industry for profit in accordance with the principles of capitalism.

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        I’m a capitalist who doesn’t defend billionaires and also doesn’t feel left out…

        The word capitalist is a noun.

        But even if you were to pull up a dictionary definition of the word that says otherwise, in the context of the economic and political system of capitalism there’s three hundred years of writing that define capitalists under capitalism as various groups of bourgeoisie.

        I think we can dispense with petty arguments over the dictionary definitions of words given what we’re discussing. If it will make you feel better I can refer to capitalists as flying purple people eaters.