I was primarily a lurker on reddit, but cared very much about the community and have left because of it. I really should become more active here, to be a better part of the community.
Anyway, long story short, I’m sure there are lurkers that care and will be/have already migrated.
Can confirm, I’m a lurker who cares and has migrated here.
Well, I was more of a lurker the last few years because reddit was slowly sliding into Facebook territory and it annoyed me but I couldn’t stop scrolling anyway. Spez’s actions were the push I needed to delete my almost 10 year old account the first day of the protest and every day since just reinforces how good of a decision that was.
Now to remember how to interact instead of just scroll…
Right, once you start lurking it’s a hard habit to break isn’t it? I thought reddit was worse but still wanted something to scroll in lines or for niche content. Now I have Lemmy!
Are you serious? You want all the users you can get who will vote and/or comment. That’s what makes content successful, engagement, in one form or another. This isn’t your own private club, if we want this thing to become successful we want as many reddit refugees as we can get.
My thinking is if you are looking for profitability through eyes on content (ads), then yes. However, I feel content creators are probably higher quality lurkers and I trust their upvotes and downvotes more.
You’re right, this isn’t a private club it’s an open community. I’m not so sure simply having more upvotes makes content successful. I don’t see the correlation between popularity and quality of content. If our content is good, we’ll attract the right community.
While having more users to engage with- even if it’s just for views and upvotes- is a good thing, I don’t think that the “apathetic users” should be the priority or are as important as the active content creators.
Those that don’t care about Reddit’s practices will continue to stick with them, rather than jump ship to a platform that doesn’t have as much content. For most of us already here, we don’t mind having less content, if it means being able to improve in other areas like thoughtful discussion and escaping the Reddit overhead. For those that don’t care about either, they’re not going to be convinced unless there’s the promise of a more enjoyable, casual experience.
There really is only two options then. Either make those people care, or create better content than Reddit to reel them in. The first has already been tried, since the blackout and the infographics spread as much awareness as possible throughout the Reddit community as a whole. For those that are still on Reddit, the only option left is the second one. There’s content there that they want that they’ll lose by switching to another platform, or they’re too accustomed to Reddit to want to make the switch.
This is where the 80/20 comes in, as YeetPics mentioned. The 20% provide the exact thing the 80% are after. If most of the 20% come here, then many in the 80% will follow. So by prioritizing bringing over the people who care about their platform and make content, you’ll by extension win over the more apathetic users anyways.
Do we really want a bunch of apathetic consumers anyway?
I view this as an 80/20 problem. 80% of users don’t post content, 20% post AND care about the platform they post to.
The 20% are mostly here.
I say let them eat the advertisements and our memes a week or two after we post.
I was primarily a lurker on reddit, but cared very much about the community and have left because of it. I really should become more active here, to be a better part of the community.
Anyway, long story short, I’m sure there are lurkers that care and will be/have already migrated.
Can confirm, I’m a lurker who cares and has migrated here.
Well, I was more of a lurker the last few years because reddit was slowly sliding into Facebook territory and it annoyed me but I couldn’t stop scrolling anyway. Spez’s actions were the push I needed to delete my almost 10 year old account the first day of the protest and every day since just reinforces how good of a decision that was.
Now to remember how to interact instead of just scroll…
Right, once you start lurking it’s a hard habit to break isn’t it? I thought reddit was worse but still wanted something to scroll in lines or for niche content. Now I have Lemmy!
YES YOU DO
Are you serious? You want all the users you can get who will vote and/or comment. That’s what makes content successful, engagement, in one form or another. This isn’t your own private club, if we want this thing to become successful we want as many reddit refugees as we can get.
No, I don’t.
If I did I would abandon my morals and crawl back into reddit.
Quality>Quantity Always.
My thinking is if you are looking for profitability through eyes on content (ads), then yes. However, I feel content creators are probably higher quality lurkers and I trust their upvotes and downvotes more.
You’re right, this isn’t a private club it’s an open community. I’m not so sure simply having more upvotes makes content successful. I don’t see the correlation between popularity and quality of content. If our content is good, we’ll attract the right community.
While having more users to engage with- even if it’s just for views and upvotes- is a good thing, I don’t think that the “apathetic users” should be the priority or are as important as the active content creators.
Those that don’t care about Reddit’s practices will continue to stick with them, rather than jump ship to a platform that doesn’t have as much content. For most of us already here, we don’t mind having less content, if it means being able to improve in other areas like thoughtful discussion and escaping the Reddit overhead. For those that don’t care about either, they’re not going to be convinced unless there’s the promise of a more enjoyable, casual experience.
There really is only two options then. Either make those people care, or create better content than Reddit to reel them in. The first has already been tried, since the blackout and the infographics spread as much awareness as possible throughout the Reddit community as a whole. For those that are still on Reddit, the only option left is the second one. There’s content there that they want that they’ll lose by switching to another platform, or they’re too accustomed to Reddit to want to make the switch.
This is where the 80/20 comes in, as YeetPics mentioned. The 20% provide the exact thing the 80% are after. If most of the 20% come here, then many in the 80% will follow. So by prioritizing bringing over the people who care about their platform and make content, you’ll by extension win over the more apathetic users anyways.
Everyone should be the priority, you can get both at the same time. Saying you don’t want [x] users is just some cliquey bs
Ain’t nothing wrong with being a Reddit lurker and just enjoying the show.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with lurking.
My point is that lurkers don’t create content. The content is what makes reddit want an IPO, and why they’re fucking with API pricing.
Edit: forgot a letter
I never did think of that angle, you are probably correct.