• trevron@beehaw.org
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    Pedophilia is not some weird fetish, though. It has no place in this world. Pedophiles just don’t deserve to have their sexual needs met in any way - period.

    A lot of the comments in here seem a little bit too sympathetic.

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      A “weird fetish” is, quite literally a paraphilia, just like pedophilia. We only care about the latter because it has the potential to hurt people if acted upon. There’s no difference, medically speaking.

      A lot of the comments in here seem a little bit too sympathetic.

      When you want to solve an issue you need to understand the people having it and have some compassion, which tends to include stuff like defending people who didn’t actually do anything harmful from being grouped with the kind who do act on their urges.

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        Humans also tend to possess an abusive tendency, where, once they can justify labeling somebody as “bad” they can justify being cruel to them. I see people doing it all the time.

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      A lot of the comments in here seem a little bit too sympathetic

      It is a mental illness. If fake images result in less real-world abuse then that’s a good thing.

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        It wont stop abuse just like regular porn won’t stop women from getting sexually abused/raped. It being a mental illness does not make it any less harmful to society. It sucks that they were born wrong or were abused to the point of no return but that does not mean they should be allowed to look at regurgitated images of children to get off and its really weird to think otherwise.

        I am all for people having their rights and freedoms but that line ends at pedophiles for me. Unfortunately, they are less than human.

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          Do you think people that are gay are mentally ill? Do you think those people choose specifically to be attracted to people from the same sex? A lot of the same things can de said about people that are attracted to kids.

          I’m not trying to say we should in any shape or form tolerate child abuse. But it’s important that we recognize that there are people like this and they didn’t choose to be that way. People have no problem to talk about punishment, but don’t like to also accept that they are also victims in a way.

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            No, being gay is absolutely not a mental illness. But there are those who are mentally ill that think they are gay when they are not or were abused in a way that caused them to fear/be repulsed by the opposite sex in a major way.

            But being gay is also not a fetish and absolutely not comparable to being a pedophile.

            Pretty insulting to the gay community tbh.

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          This took me 2 seconds to google.

          Perhaps the most serious accusation against pornography is that it incites sexual aggression. But not only do rape statistics suggest otherwise, some experts believe the consumption of pornography may actually reduce the desire to rape by offering a safe, private outlet for deviant sexual desires.

          “Rates of rapes and sexual assault in the U.S. are at their lowest levels since the 1960s,” says Christopher J. Ferguson, a professor of psychology and criminal justice at Texas A&M International University. The same goes for other countries: as access to pornography grew in once restrictive Japan, China and Denmark in the past 40 years, rape statistics plummeted. Within the U.S., the states with the least Internet access between 1980 and 2000—and therefore the least access to Internet pornography—experienced a 53 percent increase in rape incidence, whereas the states with the most access experienced a 27 percent drop in the number of reported rapes, according to a paper published in 2006 by Anthony D’Amato, a law professor at Northwestern University.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/#:~:text=Perhaps the most serious accusation,outlet for deviant sexual desires.

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            Not saying it is impossible, but the simple fact that internet exists or not is absolutely not indicative of porn having a positive or negative effect. It is a pretty weak article to use as evidence against what I am saying when it states clearly that these are only associations and correlations and essentially guesswork.

            It is just as fair and, dare I say, more sensible to assume that places with internet have been more informed, more developed, and more progressive than places without and therefore have less uncivilized behaviour.

            I will preface this next part by saying I have no idea if it is true or not, and I don’t really want to search for it for obvious reasons. But my wife was telling me about a study done in some Asian country where they literally prescribe pedophiles with child-like dolls to “have a harmless outlet” and it was found that it only made their impulses stronger and they eventually grew bored by the dolls. Again, not sure how credible it is so take it with a grain of salt.

            I just don’t see any reason why we should deem it acceptable in any form.

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              Not saying it is impossible, but the simple fact that internet exists or not is absolutely not indicative of porn having a positive or negative effect. It is a pretty weak article to use as evidence against what I am saying when it states clearly that these are only associations and correlations and essentially guesswork.

              It’s more than you’ve provided.