You have drawn a good lot it seems. Tho no matter how pleasant the job, you still create more value for your boss than you get paid back by them… (value extraction for profit lessss goooo)
Workers cooperatives typically focus on more than pure profit since the values of the workers and owner are aligned.
These can be broad and intangible goals compared to seeing the money numbers go up and down, like instead of getting laid off in economic hardship, the worker/owners receive a pay cut. Or you might hire more people than there’s work so that everyone can leave a bit earlier.
That’s why it makes me livid when landbastards talk about “passive income”… it’s just extorting money of working ppl (who actually create value) for the “privilege” of having one’s basic needs met
not rly, market machinations force co-ops to behave like for-profit capitalist companies regardless. The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that it has a boss.
Even if you have great conditions as a worker-owner, your privilege is just built on the backs of non-owner (aka. 2nd class) workers and outsourcing (see Mondragon in Spain for example)
Don’t get me wrong though: co-ops are still virtually always better than “standard” corporations imo. What I mean to say is that the systemic problem of capitalism is not solvable by just creating companies “of a new type”
You’re forgetting the fact that your work has zero value in a vacuum though. If you enjoy your employment and are well remunerated for it, then a cut for the enabler isn’t actually unreasonable. Having said that, the cut taken is usually way too high, but that’s another discussion…
You have drawn a good lot it seems. Tho no matter how pleasant the job, you still create more value for your boss than you get paid back by them… (value extraction for profit lessss goooo)
It’s pretty plain for me to see it. I still like my job as well, but I know my company charges clients 3x my hourly wage for an hour of my time.
If you and your co-workers cut out the middle man…
We get sued for breaching the non-compete clause in our contract?
Is there is job that isn’t value extraction for profit?
That is the entire point of hiring someone is to make more profit.
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Workers cooperatives typically focus on more than pure profit since the values of the workers and owner are aligned.
These can be broad and intangible goals compared to seeing the money numbers go up and down, like instead of getting laid off in economic hardship, the worker/owners receive a pay cut. Or you might hire more people than there’s work so that everyone can leave a bit earlier.
Oh believe me, I’m well aware. Having a healthy work environment doesn’t change the fact that it gets harder and harder every year to pay rent.
That’s why it makes me livid when landbastards talk about “passive income”… it’s just extorting money of working ppl (who actually create value) for the “privilege” of having one’s basic needs met
True, although this can be alliviated by working in a worker-owned cooperative business
not rly, market machinations force co-ops to behave like for-profit capitalist companies regardless. The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that it has a boss. Even if you have great conditions as a worker-owner, your privilege is just built on the backs of non-owner (aka. 2nd class) workers and outsourcing (see Mondragon in Spain for example)
Don’t get me wrong though: co-ops are still virtually always better than “standard” corporations imo. What I mean to say is that the systemic problem of capitalism is not solvable by just creating companies “of a new type”
You’re forgetting the fact that your work has zero value in a vacuum though. If you enjoy your employment and are well remunerated for it, then a cut for the enabler isn’t actually unreasonable. Having said that, the cut taken is usually way too high, but that’s another discussion…