• Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Should have sold your house. Another person could have bought it. Being the owner, they would have more respect for it since it’s their loss of it gets wrecked. Adding another house to the market also increases supply and makes houses more affordable.

    Your landlord also should have sold his house and you could have bought it instead of paying his mortgage.

    The ethical use case for rentals is short and medium term for travelers and people who are in a place for a few months to a year.

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      1 year ago

      So you expect me to buy another house when my kid is old enough that I don’t need help from my in-laws and spend much more money after the housing price goes up.

      My landlord is in a similar position as mine, soon after he bought the house I’m staying in he got assigned to work abroad for five years and decided to rent the house for cheap. I did the same expecting the tenants would act like me.

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        1 year ago

        Landlords gonna landlord. You’re literally the guy in the meme “owning other people’s homes and complaining about it”

        Basically you wrote a story where you’re the good guy who out of the goodness of his heart rented his only house at HALF MARKET VALUE just because you love the poor and want to help them. Then an EVIL NON LAND OWNING tenant moves in and destroys it for no reason. And you didn’t even make any money. What a disaster. Thankfully for your landlord you’re a good land owning tenant. If only all tenants were like you.

        What a joke.

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          Entitlement is a hell of a drug. I deserve to live wherever it’s easiest for my family, obviously. You don’t though.

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          Dude, I’m literally renting the house for a couple of years before I move back in after my kid is older. What the fuck do you expect me to do? Do you know how much I rented the house at? Only for 2 months cost of the mortgage for a year.

          Let me sum it up for you simply, if you bought a house for some price and then you need to move for a short time like 3-4 years, why the fuck should you sell the house?

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        Man people hate owning property here. Selling your house because you needed to change living conditions for a while is wild. Besides the absolute volatility of housing markets and prices, just the cost of buying/selling a home is a ton. Renting is an easy way of what you did.

        No way do these people think selling your home was the right idea in your position. And it’s not entitlement to want people to take care of property.

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        1 year ago

        Imagine complaining about having to buy a house in a bad market while also complaining about being a landlord

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          So let me get you straight. If I needed to live somewhere else for a short time like 3 years. I’ll need to sell my house and then buy the same house again after 3 years for 50% more price?

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            No? Why would you need to buy the same house again?

            Also you’re getting mad at the exact evil that makes renting the only option for some - the shitty housing market. It just so happens that landlords exacerbate the shitty market by being economic parasites. It doesn’t matter how well intentioned you are as a landlord, the concept of renting is parasitic.

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              A man owning a home and renting it out isn’t the problem and you know it.

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                It’s not the problem but it’s part of the problem. Obviously the problem is giant corporations buying up tons and tons of homes, basically hoarding property, and renting them for near-mortgage prices. But that doesn’t change the fact that the concept of renting out property, renting out a home, is parasitic.

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                  No it’s not. Renting is a totally normal way to have a place to live without having to deal with banks and the mess that getting a mortgage or a loan causes. Some people prefer to rent because they just pay for the home and live there. Don’t have to worry about the rest that comes with home ownership and leave it to the owner.

                  Renting as a business or corporation should absolutely be outlawed. Apartments should be owned by the tenants. Condos and HOA’s should be owned by the community they serve.

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      Selling your home is not a solution. “Being the owner they would of had more respect for it” is a ridiculous notion to abide by. People will wreck their home as owners just as much as renting. You can easily just argue to have the tenant pay full cost for rent, pay full down payment and then maybe he would have respected how much he was paying for his living solution.

      Do you not understand the costs of buying and selling a home? Having to deal with banks and lending? You think this is the solution every time someone or a family needs to make a living change?

      The guy tried to rent out his property at a reasonable price because he didn’t want to go through the other route. Even without the absurd costs of closing and dealing with mortgage lenders and every party involved, the volatility of the housing market is enough to make people insecure.

      I can tell the majority of people here aren’t home owners and hate landlords like some evil boogeyman but they’re conflating a single or 2 house owner with a renting conglomerate. Selling your home so there’s more homes on the market as a solution is equivalent to turning the water off while brushing your teeth to fight the dwindling supply of water.

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        Selling your home so there’s more homes on the market as a solution is equivalent to turning the water off while brushing your teeth to fight the dwindling supply of water.

        Fucking EXACTLY. Every drop counts, not running the water uselessly for 4 minutes a day saves enough water for you to survive a full day. Sure there are people wasting more water and we need to spend more energy reducing their waste, but just because someone is worse than you doesn’t mean you’re “good”.