• AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    It’s cute how you’re staying safe in your mind palace and arguing about hypothetical settlers who don’t support what’s going on.

    You know what your hypothetical virtuous perpetrators of a genocide can do if they actually feel that way? Fucking leave. They can fucking leave and go back where they came from and give back the homes they stole.

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      It’s cute how you’re staying safe in your mind palace and arguing about hypothetical settlers who don’t support what’s going on.

      Excuse me? What are you even talking about? Every single time I mentioned settlers in this thread, I did so only to blame them for the situation and called them ultra-nationalists, who are one of the groups who should be criticized alongside the government and the military. So please stop projecting so wildly and instead go with what i actually wrote, otherwise there is no basis for a discussion, thank you.

      You know what your hypothetical virtuous perpetrators of a genocide can do if they actually feel that way? Fucking leave. They can fucking leave and go back where they came from and give back the homes they stole.

      Calling out antisemitic propaganda when I see it does neither equal taking sides in the conflict nor does it equal supporting illegal settlements of racist neo-nazi expansionist assholes who murder Palestinian olive farmers.

      You should really stop projecting so much, communication becomes impossible like this.

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        This dumb motherfucker keeps using the word ‘projecting’ whenever someone calls them on imagining what Jewish Israelis think

        Do you think they’re smart enough to recognize the irony of that before it’s explicitly spelled out to them? I say no. They’re dumb as shit. Like most fascists.

        Calling out antisemitic propaganda when I see it does neither equal taking sides in the conflict nor does it equal supporting illegal settlements of racist neo-nazi expansionist assholes who murder Palestinian olive farmers.

        Fucking idiot here thinks the west bank is the first time Zionists did an ethnic cleansing

        You should really stop projecting so much, communication becomes impossible like this.

        Fucking good. Shut the fuck up.

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          You are not adding any thing to the discussion at this point, please stop spamming.

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              That is obviously a derailing attempt and you will probably freak out when I say this but here we go: Sexism against any gender, including men, is wrong.

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                I… no, honey, I wasn’t actually talking about men there, I was talking about how you’re deflecting criticism of Israel by equating it to criticism of individual israeli’s, by connecting your comment to the MRA movement’s constant cries of “not all men” when feminists say things like “1 in 4 women have been sexually assualted”. It’s not an incorrect statement in itself, but it isn’t any more relevent or helpful than me saying I wasn’t involved in the 1943 Bengal Famine, so it’s not fair to say Britain killed millions of Indians.

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                  I have been criticizing the the right-extremist government, the child murdering military and the illegal settlers of Israel, just like I have been criticizing the child murdering terrorists from Hamas. I will continue doing so despite getting attacked by islamophobic racists from the right and antisemites from the left. Sorry, not sorry.

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                    the right-extremist government, the child murdering military and the illegal settlers of Israel,

                    …who the fuck else do you think there is in Israel? Government, military, civilians, what?

                    Secondly, criticising Hamas is pretty problematic: they have lived their entire lives as second class citizens under a white European occupation, often literally under siege from an unprofessional military, losing their parents, siblings, and children to random attacks by settlers, snipers, bulldozers etc and being forced out of their homes into more and more crowded refugee camps. If you’d condemn people for fighting back under those circumstances, what would you say about resistance forces in WWII, Irish forces fighting the British, or Haitians throwing off the chains of their enslavers? Israel has not given them a choice about harming civilians - civilians are literally its first line of defence, spread out across Palestinian land to maintain their hold, moved into houses as soon as they are taken so any attempt to regain land necessarily involves them. You can be critical in your support, but it is a moral prerogative to condone and support Hamas in their fight against European colonialism and white supremacism.

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                    Sorry, not sorry.

                    Shut the fuck up you reddit brained fence sitting debate pervert liberal.

                    You are an unimaginative impotent weasel and should save us all the trouble and shove yourself into a fucking locker.