• Belgdore@lemm.ee
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    I get more of an impression that lemmy is full of far left leaning programmers. I think that is a good subset of people to have on a social media platform. But if we had more subs on other topics it should bring in other types of people.

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      The reason you don’t get many “normal” people here is that the community is absurdly hostile to anyone on the “normal person” spectrum.

      If you’re not a software-pirating techbro obsessed with “privacy,” a leftist, or a furry, this place generally shits on you.

      I very frequently post incredibly lukewarm takes for any mainstream community, and literally get called a Nazi. I have stalkers lol.

      I, personally, tend to have “normal” views but significantly more resilience to online communities than “normal” people - which is why I still come here. Most normal people left back before this place even defederated from Hexbear. They ain’t coming back.

      Until mods of what are essentially “default” communities get serious about growth instead of wanting “their” spaces, Lemmy is never going to grow. Most people don’t find getting blasted with piss-takes by Marxists funny the way I do.

      Case-in-point from this thread

      https://lemmy.world/comment/6400270

      Oh and one directed at me, right on schedule.

      Posted the bigot using the device created and coded by nerds. Do you fail to realize that “nerd” is what idiots call the smart kids? Of course you do.

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          Dude made a simple joke in the same vein as the other joke and was downvoted because it didn’t “toe the line” so yes it’s exactly what I wanted to link.

          If you can’t shitpost, there’s another huge chunk of people gone.

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              I’m defending that person’s joke.

              Read the screen names involved. It’s a decent hip-fire joke, but people took it the wrong way and downvote-spammed him

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        If you care about downvotes, then I could see your point about the Fediverse being hostile to some more mainstream opinions. I’ve made some pretty vanilla comments about markets/politics that have gotten downvoted for not being left-wing, but I don’t really care about that.

        I’ve never been called a “nazi”, but I don’t go out of my way to antagonize anyone and try to add to the conversation and if my reply is something along the lines of “socialism sucks and you suck” then I don’t post it.

        I think what it comes down to though is that the fediverse experience requires some curation and restraint compared to other larger platforms where you can go pretty much unoticed and can pretty much always find a group of people of similarly ideologically minds

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          If you care about downvotes, then I could see your point about the Fediverse being hostile to some more mainstream opinions.

          I don’t - that’s why I’m still here. Most people do.

          I regularly get called a Nazi just for saying Israel is demonstrably either not committing genocide or is so laughably bad at genocide that the claim is irrelevant.

          30k people dying is bad, and the war is especially brutal, but the US killed nearly that many civilians in Mosul, and that wasn’t genocide - the topic was never even broached. Modern war is horrific for civilians. That’s why war is not seen as a good thing.

          That take will absolutely get you called a Nazi if you post it in Politics or News/World News. This is a very normal position to have, and a significant majority of people will agree with everything above in the real world - these people aren’t going to hang out here.

          I think what it comes down to though is that the fediverse experience requires some curation and restraint compared to other larger platforms

          Yes, this is why it will stay small and insular until changes are made, which is what I’m advocating for.

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            I regularly get called a Nazi just for saying Israel is demonstrably either not committing genocide or is so laughably bad at genocide that the claim is irrelevant.

            This being the internet, you might be simply being downvoted because you are wrong. As the old adage goes, the easiest way to raise engagement find the answer to a question on the internet is not to post the question, but to post a wrong answer.

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              That might be relevant if my point wasn’t the hostility, rather than the disagreement. I don’t give a shit if you disagree with me - you’re allowed to believe whatever you want.

              The hostility costs this place users, and this is a thread about advertising for more users.

              Perhaps consider reading the entire comment before posting.

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        Maybe you should try jumping on Truth Social and suggesting they’d have a larger userbase if they’re were more tolerant of left wing views?

        Why is it always “leftists” who are supposed to welcome any and all political views with a warm mouth?

        What exactly are you offering in return besides entitled posts complaining “these people I’m stereotyping with open contempt weren’t nice enough when they replied to my unsolicited opinion with opinions of their own”?

        It doesn’t appear to be posts, moderation, money, code or insight.

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          Maybe you should try jumping on Truth Social and suggesting they’d have a larger userbase if they’re were more tolerant of left wing views?

          Does Truth Social have threads about wanting more people to join Truth Social? Because this is a thread about advertising for lemmy.

          Why is it always “leftists” who are supposed to welcome any and all political views with a warm mouth?

          Hexbear exists and you can join it.

          What exactly are you offering in return

          Growth. The thing this thread is about.

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            Does Truth Social have threads about wanting more people to join Truth Social? Because this is a thread about advertising for lemmy.

            Yes. Brainstorming how to “redpill” people is one of the far-rights favourite past times, right up there with using slurs and obsessing about strangers having the correct opinons about their own genitals.

            Did you very carefully dodge using the word “discussion” in your reply? Because this is a thread discussing the growth of Lemmy but it looks like we were supposed to just grovel at the feet of your opinion.

            Hexbear exists and you can join it.

            Have you forgotten which one of us was having a big teary about not feeling welcome because this thread right here was too left wing? I’m fine where I am thanks.

            Growth. The thing this thread is about.

            Yep. Growth and growth only. The user count goes up by one and we can pretend “bigger number means better” like we’re sad little middle managers.

            My contribution to this discussion is making it clear just how little genuine value there is caving to your slimy little guilt trip.

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        Getting down voted for saying disagreement isn’t tolerated on this site. You can’t make this shit up lol