• barcaxavi@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I feel like OP did the right thing by heart, and this story would have had a different ending in a country with different gun laws and history of gun violence. Also if the case really is OP was let go to show others that they should not engage in this “reckless behaviour” I feel it at least it should have been communicated as such when fired.

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        10 months ago

        That’s the only good thing in this story. It usually gets ugly when guns are also involved.

        Do you see where I’m going here, or do I have to involve it in my story for you to see?

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        10 months ago

        “but imagine if there were guns theree”

        Like, are you seriously that scared that you need to make up situations just because “guns”.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        You’re missing the point. HAD guns been involved, putting your hands on somebody can get really ugly really fast. You don’t want or need to take these chances with desperate people.

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            10 months ago

            Yes it does make sense. Because the insurance companies operate completely on hypotheticals. And that has a very real cost to the business being insured.

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      10 months ago

      It’s not about guns, it’s about liability. If more people had been seriously hurt because he grabbed the item instead of simply letting the guy go, the could have sued the retailer because he escalated it.

      Notice in OP’s story he was punched after he and security grappled with the guy.

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        10 months ago

        Totally get your point, and this is the logical way to think about it, but I’m not sure what decision I would make when I don’t have the time to think through.

        Also, I don’t think we can be sure that this store policy is not about guns, at least in part. I’m not from the States, but when there’s the implication of more people seriously hurt in public, in the USA, that’s where my mind is.

      • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        I blame the system that allows a theif to sue the people stopping them from stealing

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          10 months ago

          injuries cost more than most stolen goods. This is one of the realities we face between insurance companies and lack of welfare.

        • Maalus@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Blame whoever you want. In reality they teach you not to be a hero. Security is there for that. They are the people responsible. If they ask you to do something, do it. If they don’t, then don’t try anything that may make the situation worse.

          Product is replaceable and insured. Your life, or the life of anyone else there isn’t. The fact is that it most likely impacted other people working there since “manager got punched in the face, I don’t feel safe here anymore” is a reasonable reaction.

          He probably shouldn’t have gotten fired for it, but still - OP isn’t entirely blameless.

        • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 months ago

          Here’s a doozy for ya: in Canada, a person can smash your window to break into your house, and if they cut themselves on the broken glass, they have every legal right to sue you and win.

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            10 months ago

            I am aware of that. Didn’t a guy try to break in via skylight window and fall on a cutting board & knife?