• Neato@ttrpg.network
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    10 months ago

    Turns out America isn’t actually that progressive, unfortunately. We have Biden and other such candidates because they are popular because they are moderate.

    But I agree with other comments: what’s the point of bitching about Biden at this point? The bed is made, lie in it or not it’s not going to get any cozier. The time to complain was when the 2016 primaries happened. And people did and it turns out America doesn’t agree with this idea. It sucks but that’s the hand we’re dealt. Complaining about the moderate without recognizing the incredible harm the actual fascist candidate will cause is deliberately campaigning for the fascist.

    Oh and if someone pushes for revolution: You first.

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      10 months ago

      More specifically, the people who are progressive don’t vote as much as moderates and conservatives.

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              Oh fwiw, I agree with your parent comment completely. It’s just fairly self-evident that the majority of progressive voters are young, which is a demographic with turnout issues, historically. I think progressives both think that people who think like them are more numerous than they are (which is likely a bias of all citizens, if I had to guess) and that they have fairly unique issues with turnout given their age group. Either way, they have to adjust if they want to actually win or achieve anything on their own. Until then, they’re gonna have to rely on those pesky pragmatic party politicians they hate so much.

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      10 months ago

      I will not be silent just because the least awful option has already been chosen for me.

      Frankly, the system isn’t working for the working class. Trusting it to start working at some point in the future is increasingly foolish. We need systemic change and it’s about time we start taking it, instead of asking politely. Organize your workplace. Make demands for healthcare and childcare.

      The writing is on the wall, they won’t stop until we don’t have a penny to ourselves. If we’re going to end up in poverty then let’s fucking take them down with us.

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        10 months ago

        Biden has actually been pretty great considering the limited power he has. I’m absolutely concerned about his age, but I don’t think we can get a better president than his first term without shaking up Congress.

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        10 months ago

        I will not be silent just because the least awful option has already been chosen for me.

        As long as you understand what consequences your words have.

        We need systemic change and it’s about time we start taking it, instead of asking politely

        Lol. Are you taking it? Or are you just trying to get others to do the work for you?

        Want to see change? Campaign for progressive candidates at the local and state level. Primary moderates in the Demoratic party. Or, you know, complain on Lemmy while making more non-fascist voters apathetic.