How come at first the response was kinda intense? Like it seemed like I really triggered something there…
Honestly, it just seems less usual to run into an account thats like a day old and talking about Russia stuff without it being something less than above-board
Oh I enjoy being verbose. It’s not like, an upsetting thing. I get online to post. Metanarrativizing is almost no energy to me lol
Reddit attracts a demographic that is very particular. You wouldn’t be surprised to encounter Japanese people on Misskey, and I’m not surprised that you are looking for Russian infiltrators or you know, crazy gop people who latch on to points about BIDEN’S FAILED WAR and the military being homosexualized 🤬😡🤬
Honestly wasn’t looking for anything. Happened across this post and was flicking thru it and came across your comment. When it started sounding somewhat defensive of Putin, I looked up and it raised that impulse.
You’re not obviously incorrect in the sense that Putin is playing with him like a cat and a mouse but I don’t really consider having Kompromat and doing his typical “take the target down one peg” that funny, I think Putin is a mentally-sick (not necessarily different than many world leaders that represent a particular demographic that have had the OKness beaten or worse out of them that spread the same misery like a malicious AIDS sufferer) power-hungry man who created a hell-hole and wants to spread it similarly.
Apologies in advance for long post sometimes I write because it is cathartic 😁
I have no love for the man but you must understand this language you use reflects demonization of a foreign leader, and that’s coming from propagandists who even told us he might die of cancer last year? Sweden and Finland are reaching the apex of this Russia hysteria. It has done no good to Latvia or Lithuania or Estonia, economic devastation is occuring due to this far right vs neoliberal capitalist pendulum swinging.
I want Putin and his allies to lose power to the growing communist movement in Russia (KPRF). The naivete he admitted to related to the west was seen by other less greedy people long ago. He only has the advantage of being more interested in resource sovereignty of Russia rather than international corporatiobs controlling the country’s resources, which is legitimately worse it creates a horrific conflict of interest where people use unsafe extraction methods and dehumanize their workers etcetera, like Exxon and Chevron and co in Latin America. This is why Putin is preferable to post-Soviet leaders to me lol.
Also can you imagine our leaders doing adversaries foreign interviews like Putin or Lukashenko or Maduro? (In order of ascending affection from me lol, Lukashenko is meh, Maduro is flat out good.)
Putin has been happy to bring oligarchs to heel over the sanctions thing but he won’t depose them because he is dumb and a greedy capitalist at heart. To use broad strokes.
My only point is you find a decidedly different opinion of Putin in global south countries, the locus of malice around him is a product of us trying to displace problems at home. Russia is moving more towards a domestic development policy like China and they already have foreign aid that is quite robust considering they are comparatively a smaller country. Their GDP was = to Texas in 2017 this is mainly because of the inflated value of our shit (there is a stat called purchasing power parity that GDP can be adjusted with to fix this)
While I think there is a lot of deception going on with the whole Carlson thing it’s not like he just got blackmailed to do it, since he’s gone off into the NewsMax and direct streaming crowd like my old landlord, who think aliens are coming and shit, he can fence sit between completely insane QAnon people and those who think we should refocus our aggression on China away from Russia lol (won’t work btw, even with their military eating a much smaller amt of their production, as shown by the crisis in the Red Sea with Ansarallah taking or missile striking ships bound for Israel and now all US and UK vessels, resupply of anti aircraft missiles at sea massively limits how we can function in the age of rocketry. Anti ship missiles are extremely powerful and getting better constantly)
Here is where we will likely have serious disagreements lol
I understand the prevailing view is that Putin is trying to steal the Donbas, but from the perspective of the people there, he has actually been incredibly reluctant to do anything about them getting tortured and bombed. The Maidan coup has been forensically deconstructed even using facts from the case within Ukraine there was a false flag shooting by the far right Bandera linked organization that has involvement with US intelligence services going back to WWII to put it in broad strokes. Even the far right Polish parties are averse to them over them massacring Polish people with the Nazis. I digress. Lindsay Graham and Amy Klobuchar and John McCain put it better than I can lol this is search banned on Youtube iirc so ur welcome 😎😎
Putin’s motivation was to come to his fucking senses after everyone in the regions later to become LPR and DPR (especially the communists) fought a civil war (much of the army defected after the Maidan coup)
How come at first the response was kinda intense? Like it seemed like I really triggered something there…
Honestly, it just seems less usual to run into an account thats like a day old and talking about Russia stuff without it being something less than above-board
Oh I enjoy being verbose. It’s not like, an upsetting thing. I get online to post. Metanarrativizing is almost no energy to me lol
Reddit attracts a demographic that is very particular. You wouldn’t be surprised to encounter Japanese people on Misskey, and I’m not surprised that you are looking for Russian infiltrators or you know, crazy gop people who latch on to points about BIDEN’S FAILED WAR and the military being homosexualized 🤬😡🤬
Honestly wasn’t looking for anything. Happened across this post and was flicking thru it and came across your comment. When it started sounding somewhat defensive of Putin, I looked up and it raised that impulse.
You’re not obviously incorrect in the sense that Putin is playing with him like a cat and a mouse but I don’t really consider having Kompromat and doing his typical “take the target down one peg” that funny, I think Putin is a mentally-sick (not necessarily different than many world leaders that represent a particular demographic that have had the OKness beaten or worse out of them that spread the same misery like a malicious AIDS sufferer) power-hungry man who created a hell-hole and wants to spread it similarly.
Why defend him?
Defense not so much. I try to be a realist
Apologies in advance for long post sometimes I write because it is cathartic 😁
I have no love for the man but you must understand this language you use reflects demonization of a foreign leader, and that’s coming from propagandists who even told us he might die of cancer last year? Sweden and Finland are reaching the apex of this Russia hysteria. It has done no good to Latvia or Lithuania or Estonia, economic devastation is occuring due to this far right vs neoliberal capitalist pendulum swinging.
I want Putin and his allies to lose power to the growing communist movement in Russia (KPRF). The naivete he admitted to related to the west was seen by other less greedy people long ago. He only has the advantage of being more interested in resource sovereignty of Russia rather than international corporatiobs controlling the country’s resources, which is legitimately worse it creates a horrific conflict of interest where people use unsafe extraction methods and dehumanize their workers etcetera, like Exxon and Chevron and co in Latin America. This is why Putin is preferable to post-Soviet leaders to me lol.
Also can you imagine our leaders doing adversaries foreign interviews like Putin or Lukashenko or Maduro? (In order of ascending affection from me lol, Lukashenko is meh, Maduro is flat out good.)
Putin has been happy to bring oligarchs to heel over the sanctions thing but he won’t depose them because he is dumb and a greedy capitalist at heart. To use broad strokes.
My only point is you find a decidedly different opinion of Putin in global south countries, the locus of malice around him is a product of us trying to displace problems at home. Russia is moving more towards a domestic development policy like China and they already have foreign aid that is quite robust considering they are comparatively a smaller country. Their GDP was = to Texas in 2017 this is mainly because of the inflated value of our shit (there is a stat called purchasing power parity that GDP can be adjusted with to fix this)
While I think there is a lot of deception going on with the whole Carlson thing it’s not like he just got blackmailed to do it, since he’s gone off into the NewsMax and direct streaming crowd like my old landlord, who think aliens are coming and shit, he can fence sit between completely insane QAnon people and those who think we should refocus our aggression on China away from Russia lol (won’t work btw, even with their military eating a much smaller amt of their production, as shown by the crisis in the Red Sea with Ansarallah taking or missile striking ships bound for Israel and now all US and UK vessels, resupply of anti aircraft missiles at sea massively limits how we can function in the age of rocketry. Anti ship missiles are extremely powerful and getting better constantly)
What do you suggest is the motive behind this special millitary thing?
The Nth of which is asking me about Ukraine.
Here is where we will likely have serious disagreements lol
I understand the prevailing view is that Putin is trying to steal the Donbas, but from the perspective of the people there, he has actually been incredibly reluctant to do anything about them getting tortured and bombed. The Maidan coup has been forensically deconstructed even using facts from the case within Ukraine there was a false flag shooting by the far right Bandera linked organization that has involvement with US intelligence services going back to WWII to put it in broad strokes. Even the far right Polish parties are averse to them over them massacring Polish people with the Nazis. I digress. Lindsay Graham and Amy Klobuchar and John McCain put it better than I can lol this is search banned on Youtube iirc so ur welcome 😎😎
Putin’s motivation was to come to his fucking senses after everyone in the regions later to become LPR and DPR (especially the communists) fought a civil war (much of the army defected after the Maidan coup)
Sources: Download link to Rossolinski-Liebe, Grzegorz - Stepan Bandera_ The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Nationalist (2015, Columbia University Press) - libgen.li.epub 14.6 MB I don’t know why that says PHP maybe just look it up on libgen??? Good book but he has dumb statements about the NKVD that don’t even get backed up, but the stuff about the Banderites does more,
Obviously be prepared to read abt the holocaust mentally: How Monsters Who Beat Jews To Death in 1944 Became America’s Favorite “Freedom Fighters” in 1945—with a Little Help from their Friends at CIA
Beatings, Stabbings, & Electric Shocks: Donetsk Militia Vets’ Ordeal in Ukraine’s Torture Chambers
The Maidan massacre in Ukraine: revelations from trials and investigations
Lord of the Underworld: Meet the Paratrooper from North Carolina who Helped Orchestrate the War in Ukraine
uh ill link more later
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