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    9 months ago

    His case for capitalism may be terrible, and there’s no doubt capitalist has it’s share of flaws and inequities, but it is (right or wrong) very true that it’s more or less inevitable when a society industrializes and no longer relies on communal sharing as a way of life.

    You can kick against capitalism all you want, god knows there are good reasons to, but you will never replace it with anything better. If you think life was good during primitive tribalism times, you should only be forced to try it and see.

    I’ve seen parts of the world where people currently live in partial cardboard boxes with dirty mattresses as their only furniture. They still live as if the are not part of the modern world. And it isn’t pretty, life there is harsh and the reality of subsistence is extremely difficult.

    We kick against capitalism because we want to be moral warriors, but in truth we get a lot from our capitalist way of life; great food, good housing, nice furnishings, a place to hang out hat and plenty of leisure time. Just saying, it’s not all bad, and it’s really better than the alternatives.

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      but it is (right or wrong) very true that it’s more or less inevitable when a society industrializes and no longer relies on communal sharing as a way of life.

      are you sure about that?

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      I’ve seen parts of the world where people currently live in partial cardboard boxes with dirty mattresses as their only furniture. They still live as if the are not part of the modern world. And it isn’t pretty, life there is harsh and the reality of subsistence is extremely difficult.

      Do you mean any major US city? Speaking like this reality doesn’t exist the capitalist system you’re currently deep throating.

      Edit: Better yet, please list the specific “parts of the world” you’ve seen.

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        No I’m not talking about U.S. cities, but places in Mexico and Asia specifically. And if I am deep throating the capitalist system, it’s because I have wisdom to do so. You can quit being a jerk and maybe listen to someone’s else’s point of view once in awhile.

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          You just walk around with your eyes closed or are painfully ignorant if you don’t see the same things in US cities. Maybe you should open your eyes to the actual reality of capitalism and accept that people are living in these conditions because of capitalism.

          Just FYI Mexico and nearly all Asian countries are explicitly capitalist or have market-centered economies. Even “communist” China.

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      I’ve seen parts of the world where people currently live in partial cardboard boxes with dirty mattresses as their only furniture. They still live as if the are not part of the modern world.

      I’m sorry… I’m trying to understand what you’re saying. Are you saying these people choose to live that way because they’ve chosen to opt out of capitalism? And that they could instantly and effortlessly have a fantastic life if only they joined the club?

      Are you serious?