• Grayox@lemmy.mlOP
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    9 months ago

    Why in the world would you want to defend 45?! Lol, lmao even.

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      9 months ago

      I will defend anyone that the government is attacking unfairly, or that the media is lying about.

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        9 months ago

        Whats unfair about the lawsuits against Trump? Afaik, the most unfair bit is that (federalist society weirdo) judge Canon is working her ass off to stall till after the elections.

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          All of them are things he didnt do wrong, or are something that the other guys in power do, and its not a problem. Literally all of them.

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            Oh, so, is the defamation case something he didnt do (despite the rock solid evidence), or something he should get away with because other people do it too (the ultimate 6-year-old excuse)?

            And does everyone claim their property is worth 500%-800% more for decades on their loan applications?

            Have other people gotten away with hiding top secret files in their bathrooms, and lying about having them? Or did that not happen, despite the people moving them being on film?

            I don’t even care about the case about campaign finances.

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              You mentioned four different things, let me address the one I know the most about and is the most obvious. You can claim that your house or property is worth as much as you want, how the process works is that you ask for what you want and claim whatever you want, and then the bank does their underwriting and comes to their own determination of value and how much they want to lend. He did nothing wrong t hat I am aware of.

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        That’s literally what he’s telling you, and his other followers, to say.

        There is zero truth in it. If you don’t get that this guy lies to everyone, then I have a bridge I want to sell you.

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          I literally never listen to trump, I hear the stories and then find out the truth. If you dove deep on any of the things I am talking about, the facts back up what I am saying (or I wouldnt be saying it).

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        9 months ago

        Do enlighten us on how the government is attacking him unfairly, and the lies the media has told about him.

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          Lets focus on the media, do you really think the news media tells the truth about trump always, or runs misleading or stories with bad sources on purpose?

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          I definitely do not like Trump, and this comment is by no means me defending him. He has committed crimes and should be prosecuted. However, certain actions by Dems does suggest he was targeted.

          One example is his tax returns. It is a tradition for presidents to voluntarily release them. He chose not to. Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

          I also think that prosecutors in New York would have ignored his fraudulent business practices, which they likely ignored for several years prior, if he hadn’t become president and was seeking re-election.

          Again, I am not defending him. Lock him up for his crimes. But I also don’t think the democrats motivation is solely coming from the idea of “justice for all.”

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            9 months ago

            This has to be propaganda, right?

            This is like saying Capone was treated unfairly because they went after him with everything they had for tax evasion.

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            One example is his tax returns. It is a tradition for presidents to voluntarily release them. He chose not to. Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

            Oh you poor delusional soul.

            Those tax documents, while evidence of criminal acts, were just a small fraction of the literal 900 bankers boxes of fraud evidence against Trump.

            People that understand how our system of government works, understand that Congress has the power of investigation.

            Why don’t you understand that?

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            I am pretty sure the New York fraud case that is sending Trump spiraling is the direct result of testimony that his fixer Cohen gave to Congress. You can probably find the relevant testimony on the youtubes. If memory serves AOC was doing some of the important questioning.

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              That is 100% correct.

              Also, nearly every witness against Trump in his criminal trials have been members of the GOP longer than Trump has.

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            The best you can come up with is that they asked him for his tax returns to be mean?

            Gestures around

            Out of ALL THIS, that (and they should have continued ignoring his fraud) is your example of how the government is attacking him unfairly? A speck of sand compared to a dumptruck full of bullshit?

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            have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

            Nope. Turns out that there IS a real reason why public financial disclosure via tax returns has become standards practice for presidential candidates: it’s to show the public that there’s no conflicts of interest to worry about.

            That Trump refused to release his was one red flag amongst many indicating that he had foreign business interests that he refused to divest from. Such conflicts of interest are a national security threat in the case of ANY high ranking government official, let alone the president himself.

            prosecutors in New York would have ignored his fraudulent business practices, which they likely ignored for several years prior, if he hadn’t become president and was seeking re-election.

            So you’re saying that it’s unfair that he no longer gets a free pass to commit tons of crimes now that he’s more publicly visible? Cry me a river!

            Again, I am not defending him

            Yeah, you are. You may not think that you are, but you definitely are.

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            Then democratic controlled congress fought for several years to have them be released for no real reason except to force him.

            Yes, they did, and he kept refusing to do so, as was his right even if it made him look sus as fuck, especially since his excuse was the lie about being under audit. Only once he was under investigation for fucking fraud were his tax returns actually released, as evidence in the investigations.

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        lol are you living in 2016? Only an absolute rube would believe this is what’s happening to Trump in 2024.