I suggested an idea to fix this, that I called “thread entanglement”. I had suggested it for Kbin specifically, before, but honestly the base Lemmy software could use something like this. I’d love to see some sort of smart merging of duplicate threads like this be possible.
As others have mentioned in that thread. It would be better as an option from the user side rather than site wide forced implementation. I hope you open a GitHub issue/discussion in the repository so the idea could get more exposure.
Adding this as an issue on the Lemmy GitHub would be a great idea.
If people would use the lemmy cross posting functionality it would only show up once.
Indeed, unfortunately most of the mobile apps don’t implement that feature
I think ljdawson is working on it for Sync. I assume that’s why he held off on implementing posting.
That would make sense
if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
this is more like a feature request, i don’t think we are there yet.
we could also aggregate and sync comments across cross postings, so that the post is really just one, but posted in more than one community.
Yes, this is how it works in lemmy-ui. In this following example someone posted to !technology@beehaw.org and I pressed the cross-post button and cross-posted it to !firefox@lemmy.ml:
And if you cross post it to more then one there will be just a list of them.
if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
On the website, it does
TIL there’s people that still use Yahoo News.
Hey, free news content sans paywall and an app that does only what it says on the tin. What’s not to like?
Huh, I just looked. I swear it was more cancerous before.
Yahoo Finance managed to make itself real damn useful, and that’s one of the most lucrative ad markets, if not THE most lucrative.
When I woke my Yahoo Mail account from its ancient slumber, everything was in Spanish for some reason, and I expect that reason is that they expanded outside the US and have a large user base in South America, where Yahoo probably doesn’t look as dead. “Free email” goes even farther when your country doesn’t get to have the world’s reserve currency. So Yahoo just defaulted to Spanish for accounts until I had to tell it I’m a gringo.
Americans really do have a hard time remembering the rest of the globe exists, but our companies don’t, so a lot of companies that seem “dead” are just really active outside the US.
So yeah, somebody is still using Yahoo News. Quite a lot of somebodies, actually. Even Americans. Especially Americans. They hooked us with real nice stock market quotes and such. That’s how you reel a Yankee back in, make it easy to see that revenue trend at a glance.
Keep in mind you can always block communities you’re not interested in to prevent them from appearing in any feed. I’ve already blocked plenty of communities to make the “All” post list digestable.
Could you please share the blocked part of the JSON you get with https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim ?
That could probably help new joiners.
Why would I? The list of communities which one wants to block is very personal / individual. My preferences what I don’t want to engage with is purely mine and cannot be transferred to all other users. So any user should make their own decisions what communities they want to block, instead of blindly copying someone elses and potentially missing out on content they would enjoy.
You can also block users, which is super helpful with people that go on crossposting rampages.
There are so many though. I’m trying to prune politics from my feed but people keep making new goddamn communities - a dozen isn’t enough, apparently - and then crossposting everything everywhere anyway.
Don’t sort by new? Top on a short time frame is probably a better choice
This is top 6 hours.
Sorting by new or new comments does not usually result in seeing the same post across multiple instances all bunched together like this. This is what you’d see sorting by Hot or Active or just looking at your subscriptions when youre subscribed to multiple comminities centered around the ssme topic.
There is sorting by new posts and there is sorting by new comments. By comments is a lot more random/mixed
I’m surprised that no-one’s brought out a client that can merge communities. People properly using the cross-posting feature seems to help with this a bit.
At least if lemmy detects the same link it should view it as a cross-post automatically, even if people didn’t use the cross-post UI.
This bugs me too. There are various GitHub issues about grouping communities. As far as I know, no one has gotten to 'em yet.
It’s just like browsing r/all on reddit. We did it, Lemmy!
Eh. Eventually one of them would win out. I posted the same link in movies@lemmy.world and moviesandtv@lemmy.film. The first one hasn’t had any comments where as the second one has more than a dozen comments. I know where I’ll post the next time.
Seems like we could use federation on the community level
Yes, exactly this. Using Reddit as an anology, each Subreddit should be it’s own instance, rather than having duplicate subreddits across many instances.
That’s not really how the technology works. But a simple solution could be, both in kbin and lemmy, if the software could aggregate link posts that share the same canonical link URL and provide a summary for each community that’s linked it. Then you’d see the link once, but could see the post from each community that’s linked it rolled up underneath it.
Kind of like how some RSS readers have a feature that will detect “hot links” in your feed and surface the link with access to the feed items below it rather than having the feed items scattered about.
We would still have multiple instances/communities with the same name and intetest.
As we dkd with Subreddit, but one usually wins out as the defacto.
Wef err Voyager has a thing that will block things that you have already looked at.
That might help
I’m all in favor of several communities on the same topic as long as they offer different content
Having the same link or picture shared across several communities is just detrimental to the user experience.
Also, to avoid this, maybe we should have core communities for a specific topic (for instance unions), and then they can fork if there is a need (e.g. what happened with !android@lemmy.world and !android@lemdro.id )
OP, as of now, I would just suggest to block communities that are too similar.
I only have one tech community as they seemed to all be the same anyway, I’ll reassess in a few weeks if I need to select the other one.
I agree, the cross-posting gets annoying. Why do people insist that everyone who is interested in a certain topic needs to participate in their post, so it has to go on every community?
People did not do that on reddit. They just made one post and waited for interaction.
there were tons of cross posts on reddit, it’s just that they usually weren’t visible on the front page as such
@cyu@sh.itjust.works stop cross-posting to the same communities, there’s no karma!
Not sure if tagging is a thing 🤷
There are a couple of users I recognize just because of the amount of duplicate/triplicate/quadruplicate posts I see from them, often times grouped up like that too.
Which… Why? There’s no karma to farm here, just post it once and let the conversation happen there.
No offense to anyone, but I’m down voting duplicates to try to stop this shit.
There are some who are trying to feed content to all communities instead of just choosing.
Because there’s more then one community of the same topic. They’re actually doing a really good thing, they’re trying to grow multiple communities. It’s not karma farming here, it’s supporting communities. That is much preferably then people only submitting to the biggest community and create more centralization.
Hadn’t thought about it like that. Thanks. I think this will become less of an annoyance over time, too. The more communities show up and get active, the more I subscribe to, then the more I’ll use my subscribe feed and therefore won’t see the duplicates.
The whole point of making a federated network of independent instances is to avoid the issues arising with one central instance, right? Putting the content out to multiple instances plays into that: If it’s important content, no single authority can easily censor it, and the loss of a single instance won’t erase it.
If it’s trash, of course, every community in every instance you post it to will have to clean it up separately. Arguably, that puts more strain on the respective moderation teams, but if (ideally) those are disjunct people (again, to avoid the issues of a single authority), the strain should be distributed.
And on the plus side, it would enable each community (in the lemmy sense) to enforce their own nuanced rules, additionally leading to slightly more choice between the types of moderation you favour (as opposed to “There’s one big sub, take it or leave it”).
Individual communities may be smaller, but maybe some more form of coordination of similar communities across instances could amend that (like linking to the other communities in your sidebar etc.).
I could also imagine a super-community solution that would allow you to aggregate several communities across instances similar to multireddits. I’m new here, so I’m not sure if that exists, nor have I given the implementation any thought, but I suppose that could be convenient.
