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I don’t like it, but at least the numbers are ordered by specificity. MM/DD/YYYY is a big red flag.
Never visit Europe then.
In Sweden we tend to use iso, except sometimes on “Best before” dates. It’s always fun trying to figure out if your food is going bad by, for instance, the 10th of August or the 8th of October…
ISO 8601 or bust.
That one for file sorting, the one in the pic for everything else.
Sorry, in Linux everything is a file, so there is no “everything else.”
Life extends beyond Linux, though. I was speaking in general terms.
No, YYYY-MM-DD is fine for real life. Just drop the year when it doesn’t matter. Billions of people use this format.
Beautiful
This.
I can handle DDMMYY[YY] it reads correctly. But YYYYMMDD is numerically correct, most signifcant to least significant digitwise.
That thing only American’s do, is completely non-sensical.
I absolutely loath the American favorite: 8/9. Like fuck, is that August 9th, September 8th, or just a fraction??
It is sensical for one use:
“So when is the event?”
“May 20th, 2024”It’s such a niche use, though
I know you’ve been bashed already by others, but could you elaborate on why this is sensical?
In a, “Alright I guess that technically works and at least can follow the logic”. It’s pretty damn niche, however (who is going to ask for two or more years in advanced for a date and not go, “Just text/email it”? Heck, even this is pushing it, but I can at least follow the logic)
Could be that I’m slightly fucking up definitions in my head, it was a long day yesterday
Americans always put the month first.
E.g. July 4th.Except when we don’t, like 4th of July…
I think that’s because you’re used to hearing dates said that way? Over here in DDMMYY-land, we often would say “20th of May, 2024” and that sounds equally sensical to me tbh
And in a lot of countries they just say 20 May, 2024. So no ordinal numbers for the day.
In what way is it sensible?
I get that you prefer saying it like that, just because you’re used to it. It is conventional but definitely in no way sensible.
In that it at least has a use that one can go, “Alright I guess that technically works”
You mean the 20th of May?
20th in 5th in the year of our lord 2023
For sorting or filing, I agree. I think in day to day life, though, Day and month are way more significant. So I actually prefer DDMMYYYY for that.
DDMMYYYY would be great, if it weren’t for 95% of Americans that use MMDDYYYY. Is 07/02/2000 July 2nd or Feb 7th?
Thus the only solution is to write out the month or start with the year, because no logical group of people currently use YYYYDDMM. Plus by using YYYYMMDD you get the added benefit of the dates all being sortable using dumber applications.
Makes sense, I just mostly interact with Europeans, so I don’t encounter this problem a lot. I really don’t have a problem with YYYYMMDD though anyway.
It’s because that’s how we talk. We say October 5th, not the 5th of October.
English people say October 5th. Spanish people say 5 de Octubre. Same for other languages. That’s probably why Europeans prefer the other format.
because no logical group of people currently use YYYYDDMM
You are saying it like if MMDDYYYY made any sense. To someone who uses MMDDYYYY daily, they could think of YYYYMMDD as “Its like the usual but backwards” and now you have a group of people reading it as YYYYDDMM.
You could convince a group of people to use YYYYDDMM, but what I mean is nobody currently uses it. So at this moment of time YYYYMMDD is intuitive, and has a miniscule chance of being mixed up like DDMMYYYY and MMDDYYYY (because a large number of people use these formats).
Please don’t convince Americans to use YYYYDDMM lol. :-)
I still prefer yyyymmdd for day to day. If year is irrelevant just skip it. If you only use a date format you get used to it and it becomes the most efficient one due to consistency. Sidenote, in my language the default date format is actually yyyymmdd.
Dd MMM YYYY
So if you communicate with someone you will specify the date in the year 2023 september 23rd we shall meet and not 23rd of september 🧐
That is not the point. When you print/document something, use ISO. In everday cases, it won’t matter much.
I expected to see this when I looked at the comments, and you didn’t disappoint me!
So glad this is the default in Japan. 🇯🇵 😌
8601 for life
No more comments necessary in this thread.
I like DDMMYY but for some reason when I include the time as ss:mm:hh nobody shows up to the event on time.
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It’s the only one that makes any logical sense!
ISO-8601. God’s own date-time format
The overlap of iso-8601 and rfc-3339 is God’s own, the regions outside are lower.
I feel like I should frame this graphic. It’s beautiful
/c/iso8601 assemble !
This person sorts
Absolutely! Everything else needs special algos for organization to put it in the proper order. This format just works numerically out of the box.
What about YYYY/MM/DD?
Works , but MMDDYY ugh
Even better, easier sorting.
Yeah, that’s the one you use for filenames. Backup images and the likes.
Use hyphens instead of slashes and we’re on the same page.
Why would you put the day in a secondary sub-folder?
Nobody puts Baby in a tertiary folder!
Now that I think of it, this may actually be a pretty nice system to store files hierarchically by date.
It’s definitely something you can do when the year is in the most-significant-digits place in the order and the day-of-the-month is in the least-significant place.
@675 is the best!
Wow, TIL. Whenever I’m down on my life’s accomplishments, I’ll just remember that this tried to happen.
One might ponder: is it better to be forgotten or be forever remembered for attempting something silly?
I used to have a Swatch watch some 20 years ago that displayed internet time. It was such a cool (and nerdy) idea 🤓
Going day to day, dd/mm/yyyy works, but for archival purposes and looking up stuff in the past, mm/dd/yyyy works better, imo. Like when you need to go through a physical file cabinet, or an electronic database.
Or you’re the type of person who’s zoned out all the time and don’t even know what month it is until you look at a clock or calendar.
for archival purposes yyyymmdd is best. that way you can just sort lexicographically and it’ll also be sorted chronologically
08AUG2023 is about as unambiguous as it gets.
Except it doesn’t sort well in any fashion and it requires two different types of contexts to interpret. It’s easier to screw up the order of a month by name than it is to screw up the order of a number. Not saying we should play to least common denominator, but we should be making it as easy as possible. I’d prefer sorting speed over needing to learn how to interpret the date correctly if every single date is stored the same way.
I just dont see why the hell you would switch? dd/mm works fibe in all situations and has some advantages sometimes, while mm/dd is fine sometimes, but generally worse or equal.
I always wonder why old memes are losing pixels and quality. Like an old paper shared over the years.
As usual, there’s an xkcd for that. Along with a more detailed explanation.
because they get downloaded from say reddit and then reuploaded again a year later or so which since most sites/services compress files uploaded they get worse and worse quality
It’s the modern version of the VHS or cassette tape.
It’s because people keep taking screenshots of the image and sharing the screenshot instead of the original image file. It’s like making a copy of a copy of a copy until it looks like garbage.
Stop right there criminal scum, you are not allow to publish original copyrighted works, you are stealing from the artist’s mouth by squandering his market value !
So that’s why normal people screenshot.
yyyyMMddTHH:mm:ss.sss+Z for the win
Tired: ISO date format
Wired: milliseconds since the Unix Epoch
Galactic brain: Planck time units since the Big Bang
Impractical waste of computing power and information storage
Not if you encode it using an exponent. One Planck time unit is roughly 1.8 x 10-43 seconds, so with an exponent of 2128 (roughly 3.4 x 1038) you could write a second as 54510 x 2128 TP
Another fun fact, 2128+32 Planck time units are about 21 hours
Also almost killed all computing in y2k
I’d have to say April 25th because it’s not too hot, not too cold. All you need is a light jacket.
Unix timestamp for me thanks.
I only understand time in reference to Jan 1, 1970.
Time did not exist before this date
To eliminate this confusion I propose the days of the month should start from 13.
Do we really even need months? They don’t even line up with the lunar cycle like they pretend to do.
Just give us Year/Day. On leap years we get an extra long New Year holiday.
I say we force them to be alphabetical.
Anuary Bebuary Carch Dapril
