• Ertebolle@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Paraphrasing an old meme:

    Fahrenheit - how hot humans feel
    Celsius - how hot water feels
    Kelvin - how hot atoms feel

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    10 months ago

    I just use

    30°C is hot, 20°C is nice 10°C is cold, 0°C is ice.

    Obviously that won’t apply everywhere, but in milder climates it works pretty good.

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      And 40°C is the melting point of the human brain.

      Which goes some way towards explaining some of the decisions happening in Florida, Texas and Arizona during their ridiculously hot summers…

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        10 months ago

        I understand and appreciate your joke, but is it really? And I imagine that the bones and skin would melt first, right? Idk. I’ve never considered that someone could melt from the inside.

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          10 months ago

          Not literally, no, but it can be very difficult to concentrate on anything else when you’re suffering under immense heat and a lack of concentration can lead to a figurative brain meltdown.

          That being said, the brain is mostly fluid, fat and electric connections so it would DEFINITELY melt long before your bones.

          Would have to be around 50-60°C for the 60% of it that’s fat to hypothetically melt if exposed directly to the heat rather than protected by the skull and cooled down by the blood, but that’s nothing compared to the 1670°C melting point of human bones.

          Btw, I hope you’re happy with this reply since my Google search history looks rather grisly now 😂

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    10 months ago

    If those Americans could read they’d be very upset.

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        Because for weather, °F is arguably better. 0°F - 100°F is the general range that most weather on the planet happens at (yes I know there are extremes where it gets to like -30°F or 120°F, but bear* with me). You can then further break those up into 10°F segments that are a bit more practical and granular than 10°C segments:

        • under 0°F: stay inside
        • 0°F - 10°F: really fucking cold, don’t stay out too long or you risk hypothermia
        • 10°F - 20°F: still really cold, but you can stay out long enough to shovel your driveway without fear of losing fingers/toes, if you’re wearing winter gear
        • 20°F - 30°F: cold but not bitterly so. Perfect weather for outdoor winter activities like sledding or snowball fights
        • 30°F - 40°F: Snow starts melting here, and you can probably ditch the scarf, but you still need a winter jacket
        • 40°F - 50°F: Too warm for your heavy winter jacket, to cold for your light spring jacket. It’s layering season baybee
        • 50°F - 60°F: still layering season, but you can probably get by with just a light jacket at this point, especially if you’re doing something active outside. Some people start breaking out the shorts, but that’s not the norm.
        • 60°F - 70°F: a more generally acceptable range to start wearing shorts and short sleeves. Perfect temps for doing yard work and sipping beers on the patio alike
        • 70°F - 80°F: definitely shorts weather, and pools start coming into play. If you’re doing something rigorous outside, you’re probably sweating
        • 80°F - 90°F: you’d probably rather be inside, if you’re not in a pool. You’ll be sweating just lounging in your deck chair.
        • 90°F - 100°F: hot as balls, probably not worth going outside for very long, as the pool water feels like taking a dip in lukewarm soup
        • Over 100°F: stay inside

        Now I know you can do something similar with °C, but the workable range there is smaller, because you’re going from like -15°C to 40°C. It’s less granular, and the start/stop temps are more awkward.

        Is it weird that water freezes at 32°F and boils at 212°F? Sure, absolutely. When you’re doing stuff in that context, it absolutely makes sense to use Celsius, where you’re working on a nice, neat 0°C-100°C range. But weather, the thing most people contextualize temperatures with, doesn’t happen in that range. It starts well below freezing, and (hopefully) doesn’t get anywhere close to the boiling point of water. For that, I’d argue °F is actually a little more useful.

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    10 months ago

    Unpopular opinion time; the US already uses metric/Celsius where it matters; in science, engineering and the military. Where it doesn’t matter, we use a weird hybrid system that makes intuitive sense to us and is accordingly perfectly functional and doesn’t need to be changed.

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      Kelvin use the same scale as Celsius, the only difference is the zero point. The imperial system and Farenheit sucks and result very expensive and cause even deaths because of wrong conversions: Crushed 2 Mars probes >$350M, flight crash with more than 130 victims because of an error calculating the amount of fuel, wrong amount of medicine respect bodyweight, etc…

      https://www.vox.com/2015/2/16/8031177/america-fahrenheit

      vs

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        10 months ago

        I’m sorry, but Fahrenheit has nothing to do with the errors you cited. Hell, even the overall Imperial system, silly an (mostly) antiquated as it is, has nothing to do with the examples you cited.

        The expensive failures you listed were caused by a lack of standardization. Those failures wouldn’t have taken place if every international agency had standardized on the Imperial system or the metric system.

        Your point is not only a nonsensical non sequitur, it is also wrong.

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          It has nothing to do with standardization. With science and technology today, it is not possible to work in conditions with measurements and units random, based on parts of the body of a dead king centuries ago and not even, what is more serious, does not differentiate between weight and mass. Besides, it requires complicated conversions, a source of errors. For example of calculating the angular momentum in different parts of a 1.6 mile long bridge, if it has to be calculated with inches. No problem in a Bridge of 2,364 km to use Meters, centimetros or even Milimetros, only have to move the coma, no calculations needed. The important thing in science is that the units are repeatable and reconstructible, which in degrees Celsius is not a problem, having as a reference the freezing and boiling of water at sea level as a reference. A similar reference for Fahrenheit does not exist, at least not with sufficient accuracy, which is why it was discarded as a unit. You can be sure that the manufacturers that supply Fahrenheit thermometers to the US calibrate them using Celsius or Kelvin, then put the Fahrenheit scale after converting the values.

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            10 months ago

            Apologies, but I have no idea what you’re talking about.

            Both Celsius and Fahrenheit are based off the exact same thing: the freezing and boiling points of water. Fahrenheit just gives you more resolution between the two (180 degrees for Fahrenheit vs 100 degrees for Celsius), but otherwise they operate in the same way.

            I agree that the underpinnings of the weight and distance measurements used in the Imperial system are silly, but they are still just as accurate as the weight and distance measurements in the metric system. The metric system’s units for weight and distance are more logical and easier to use, but that doesn’t make them more accurate given modern measurement methods.

            I think the US should adopt the metric system in general, but I honestly don’t see the point in bringing Celsius along with the rest of the measurement standards.

            I honestly see zero benefit to Celsius over Fahrenheit: they are both pegged to the boiling and freezing points of water, Celsius was just unnecessarily limited in the number of degrees between those two points. Beyond that limitation of Celsius, there’s basically zero difference between it and Fahrenheit.

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              10 months ago

              It’s not like that. Fahrenheit is not based on the freezing and boiling point of water, which is used32ºF and 180ºF as a reference, if not, it would result absurdo. No it serves to consider it the same claiming that water freezes at 32ºF because it is known. It does not make it reconstructible, essential in science. You can’t work with randomly obtained values if you use a fixed reference like water, how do you want to determine a zero point without do all kinds of conversions in physical or chemical applications and experiments? Sure, you can put a thermometer on ice and in boiling water and then put a scale between 32º and 180º instead of between 0º and 100º, to measure in Fahrenheit, but this does not solve the problem of reconstructibility of these units. Fahrenheit set the 0ºF and the 100ºF on the scale by recording the lowest temperatures he could measure and his own body temperature, by being in a slight state of fever. He took the lowest temperature that was measured in the harsh winter of 1708 to 1709 in his city of Gdansk (Poland), about -17.8 C, as point 0 F, with this we have the same problem as with the other imperial units, they lacks an exact unit for the reconstruction, not better than the pie as unit for the lenght. Even the Réaumur scale is better, also use 0º for the freeze point of water, but using a octagesimal scale where water boils at 80º instead of 100º in C.

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      10 months ago

      Because each time we look for some English content, they use some dumb fantasy metrics based on the size fo the feet of a king for some reason, and we need to look up a converter to change it to a metric used in 195 different countries.

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            Because it’s a massive waste of money for little to no benefit, and barely actually comes up because unit conversion is trivial and is done constantly regardless of overall unit system.

            Armchair unit system fanatics make it out to be such a bigger deal than it is. Whether im working in metric or standard I’m doing several to several dozen dimensional analyses anyway, normally with industry specific units. Which again, exist in both standard and si.

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      10 months ago

      I love that the meme is about Canada, Australia, and the US(ish), yet it’s the Europeans that get called out by this guy. Who’s living rent free in whose head? ;)

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    Here’s a rough C° primer for Americans

    0° or below, fucking cold

    1° - 10° cold

    11° - 20° cool

    21° - 30° warm

    31° - 40° hot

    41° or above - Jesus Christ I’m on fire!

    As for Fahrenheit for the rest of the world, on a scale from 0 to 100, how hot is it? Assume anything below zero is really fucking cold, and anything above 100 is really fucking hot.

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      10 months ago

      Yup. Where I live we have seen down to -20F (during that time texas almost lost their power grid) and up to 115F.

      Its currently 110F. Aka, hot.

      Or, -28c to 46C. Currently 43C. And 40% humidity. Feels horrible.

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      10 months ago

      -10° - -1° very cold

      0° Water freezes

      1° - 5° Cold

      6° - 10° cool

      11° - 16° warm

      17° - 25° hot

      26° - 30 very hot

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      I get metric for everything else, but °F is the better system for everyday/non scientific use. I will die on this hill.

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        10 months ago

        That’s because Fahrenheit is % of hot, based on what we feel. Therefore, °F is better for everyday use.

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          10 months ago

          The one you use is the better system. I want to know whether I should bring a sweater. The system is arbitrary.

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    Double Celsius and add 30. It’ll get you close enough for environment temps.

    10*2 is 20, plus 30 = 50.

    (10°C × 9/5) + 32 = 50°F

    30 doubled is 60, plus 30 is 90.

    (30°C × 9/5) + 32 = 86°F

    10°C is mild af. Who tf doesn’t wear shorts when it’s 50F?

    If you want to sound more metal, tell people how cold it is in celsius. Was it kinda cold or was it in the negatives?