A Friday blog post details the Bluesky team’s moderation proposals for “a shared public commons,” using things like lists, hashtags, and even “per-thread” tools that would give moderation power to each poster. The latter treats threads like a mini-forum: if you don’t like a reply, you can yeet that skeet (or just hide it). The post acknowledges why this might be problematic: Along with algorithms, hands-off moderation fits right into Jack Dorsey’s original concept for decentralized social media.
“decentralized” except that they’re keeping the core software proprietary and the main site in closed beta. Seems more like they’re using that as a buzz word to compete with mastadon than actually committing to open software.
Aside from meta, we should probably be keeping an eye on these guys for an Em/Ex/Extinguish imo
The goal of Bluesky is to turn social media into a shared public commons.
I agree with most of their blog post and it sounds like they’re taking a very measured approach to building out federation, but I really want everyone to stop trying to insist social networks be “public commons”. Moderation tools that do anything more than the bare minimum of blocking forms of speech that are not protected free speech by definition transform the social network into a place that’s not a public commons. Being able to block individuals, communities, topics (via keywords and hashtags), and entire federated servers makes it so that if you really want, you never have to see viewpoints you strongly disagree with. The same is not guaranteed in real public commons. Every day you walk down the street, you have the potential to be confronted with ideas you never considered and your only recourse is to engage, drown out, try to ignore, or walk away from those people, which is not analogous to blocking and thereby deplatforming them online.
That said, I do not want my social network to be a public commons (and from what they’re describing, it doesn’t sound like Bluesky actually does either). Online, I want to be able to block and deplatform e.g. Nazis and MAGA trolls pre-emptively and with extreme prejudice because I want to enjoy my time on social networking sites, not raise my blood pressure.
That said, I do not want my social network to be a public commons (and from what they’re describing, it doesn’t sound like Bluesky actually does either). Online, I want to be able to block and deplatform e.g. Nazis and MAGA trolls pre-emptively and with extreme prejudice because I want to enjoy my time on social networking sites, not raise my blood pressure.
I don’t even want meatspace public spaces to foster an atmosphere that’s conducive to hate. The government might not be able to stop a Nazi rally, but I want the community at large to make sure people never feel safe doing so, and for people to understand that publicly proclaiming your hatred and bile will make you a pariah.
I find the “digital commons” and the “online town square” metaphors to be poor ones when thinking about moderation on social networks. It’s shoehorning analog concepts onto digital information transmission systems. The two are not the same. Harassment and misinformation spread happen very differently digitally than they do in the analog world. “Digital commons” metaphors are prominent amongst “free speech” hardliners like Dorsey and Musk who simply don’t want to go through the hassle of developing, funding, and creating policy for online speech moderation. Anyone who uses phrases like digital commons loses a fair amount credibility in my eyes.
How is blue sky decentralized? Can one self host? If not, is decentralized referring to the fact that you can moderate your own posts?
There’s already a shared public commons - it’s called ActivityPub, and they refuse to use it because it would impact the shareholder value of their private company. Bluesky is as full of shit as my constipated toddler.
I hadn’t realized that they had a dev server up. https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds
I may need to take a shot at standing up a server. A bunch of my IRL friends can’t be convinced to jump to Mastodon, but they’re champing at the bit to get an invite to Bluesky. That said, maybe I’ll wait until federation outside of the dev sandbox is a reality.
