EDIT: The only reason why I still had it at this point was because I could use it with other apps. However, now that my Spotify Subscription is cancelled, it doesn’t work with anything. It’s mildly infuriating because today, I can’t still use it with other apps like I was able to yesterday.
Please don’t make the same mistake I made. No one should buy this.
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can’t blame the devs, it’s a thing for a car. better than spoticar
Sp-auto-fy
better than spoticar
Nope
Unironically Spoticar would suck less
better than spoticar
Barely, if at all.
I guarantee you that some idiot working there thought it was “quirky”
I cancelled my paid Spotify account because I can’t get them to stop fucking recommending Joe Rogan to me.
There’s literally a feature on Spotify where you can hide an artist and never see it, fyi
Allegedly, YouTube Music is about to shove podcasts in our faces with a soon to come update.
I’m leaving YTM if they do that. I’ll go back to ☠️⚓⛵ and using locally available music.
I’m moments away from canceling. Splash screens of some bullshit podcast or something I don’t want to see. Getting fed up.
I’ve been pretty happy with YouTube music. I got legacied in due to Google Music shutting down and thought I would hate it, but I’ve had zero complaints. Plus, it comes with free YouTube Premium, so I haven’t seen an ad in years.
Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I’ve never listened to before because that’s how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There’s literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don’t get how people are ok with the YTM app, it’s terrible.
I hate YTM and I hate that I can’t cancel it because they bundle it with YouTube premium, which my partner uses every day. Screw Google and they anti-consumer manipulative bs.
Yeah, you can use the play next button but it’s not ideal
Their queueing system sucks. All I want to do is queue up some songs but instead YTM fills my queue with tons of crap I’ve never listened to before because that’s how they make money. They put my manually queued songs at the END of the queue so I have to move them up 20+ spaces. There’s literally no way to do it other than creating a custom playlist every time I listen to music, and they intentionally made that take more clicks/taps than queuing. I don’t get how people are ok with the YTM app, it’s terrible.
wrong.
- you can disable automatic queuing by hitting the ‘auto-play’ switch in UP NEXT
- you can queue songs by long-pressing and hitting ‘play next’ (which will put it in front of the queue) or ‘add to queue’ (which will put it in my the end
No, I’m not wrong. Option 1 does not exist on my phone. There is no switch.
And the “play next” feature also sucks. I don’t want to “play next”. I want to build a queue like literally any other music app and that isn’t what “play next” does.
Edit: I don’t see that “auto-play” switch on the web app in Safari either.
yes you are, it must be there unless you’re using an obsolete release of the app. Below is a screenshot how it looks like
yes, you can build a queue by “adding to queue”.
No. I’m not wrong, and I don’t appreciate you repeatedly telling me I am when you obviously have no clue what I’m looking at.
It isn’t there. I’m on Android 13 with the latest version of the app. There is no “auto-play” toggle anywhere. I’d upload screenshots to prove it but lemmy is throwing exceptions. I’ve checked every tab and settings page as well.
So I finally figured it out. this is how that toggle works:
- it only appears when you manually search for a song or select a song from certain groups on the home page.
- it does not appear to appear if you select a song from “listen again” or “quick picks” in which case the app forces you to listen to whatever is in their queue unless you manually clear the queue.
So no matter what it’s still a bad experience.
oh yeah, you are right-ish. it doesn’t show up if you launch a “radio”, which innately is a automatic, end-less playlist of similar music. I do agree though that this should be more visible in the UI
Same. Honestly, I expected YTM to make things worse. That’s usually how those kinda things go. But it actually did get better for me. I jumped to Google Play Music because it had better selection than Spotify (at least back then). YTM kept that, but fixed the issues I was having with the desktop browser player sometimes getting stuck. And the more recent support for lyrics that are synced to the music is great.
Really? Where out of curiosity? I’ve never experienced that.
On PC. Keep (kept) it in a separate window while working.
The system working as intended. Now you’re “locked in”.
Something tells me they just didn’t realize someone would buy a Spotify car play without already having a subscription.
I mean really, you’re too cheap for 9.99/m but you’ll drop 100 bucks for something your phone already does?
Seems like OP is just in a very unique situation that Spotify didn’t expect anyone to be in.
9.99/m is 119.88/y and it doesn’t stop. Maybe OP thought that the purchase was a one time purchase, and I don’t really blame him, since why would the thing exist if phones with a subscription can already do that it does?
I don’t really blame him
He bought a piece of convenience tech designed for a specific piece of software, when said convenience tech is totally unnecessary to the function of that software, then got mad that he needed the software
I am shocked that everyone in this thread isn’t roasting this dude nonstop. He’s an idiot.
They just don’t consider personal responsibility to even exist. It’s the corporation’s fault they spent a hundred bucks on a thing your old phone and a 15 dollar magnetic mount could have done for you, because said device needs a subscription service.
I had a guy tell me in this thread that I had “privilege” for saying Spotify didnt expect people without a paid subscription to be spending money on such an overpriced device. OP is throwing hundo’s away on stupid shit but it HAS to be the corpos fault somehow, people will toss logic right out the window to keep the cognitive dissonance at bay.
Sadly he is always right. I wish he was wrong all the time.
I’d check his wikipedia page before throwing around “always” like that.
Thank Faust there are times he is wrong! At least I know we live in not the worst world imaginable.
The Controversies section of his Wikipedia page is euh interesting to say the least. He said some things that are not remotely acceptable
Funny you mentioned RedHat’s cancelation of Stallman.
I didn’t mention that? I don’t write on Wikipedia.
But don’t you think his views on pedophilia are unacceptable? He says he has changed his mind and that’s great but doesn’t excuse what he said.
I usually agree with his views on software but the rest is often questionable
That’s really dissapointing, did Spotify seriously release a hardware device that expensive, and mandates a subscription to operate?
It’s a shame because it looks quite nice too, and is sadly guaranteed to be e-waste at some point
I mean, it’s basically a cheap smartphone or computer tablet, with a lower resolution, but nice quality screen, and a giant volume spinner. $100 does not get you much at all in the phone and tablet space. I don’t think there’s much of any profit margin, if at all for it.
Are you kidding me? It’s been par for the course as far as car assessors go. Sirus radio was like 100 and still required a subscription. A lot of GPS were that price and most had subscriptions.
Those I don’t fault. Sirius has satellites to maintain and they don’t get ad revenue.
GPS makers, well making maps on that scale is very expensive. Not everyone can be google and give it away to end consumers by harvesting user data and selling ads to businessplaces.
Spotify though, fair enough to charge for the hardware but once bought should work with the ad-supported version of their product…
The hardware is free for subscribers…
If you buy it outright it tells you that you need a subscription.
I think I got an Echo Auto for $25 (during the public tests). It doesn’t need any kind of a subscription to use as far as I’m aware. It only does streaming still, but there are Alexa skills that let you stream from your Plex or Jellyfin server.
Yes, but the Echo platform is a tool to gather user data.
Man you are seriously going to hate the future lol
I could still use it for playing music in other apps. Now I can’t.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted - enshittification as a viable consumer business model was pretty much proven in the auto space.
Just like they want to charge you to use the heated seats you’re paying the gas to lug around anyway
Just because it’s percieved as normal doesn’t mean it’s something we should put up with though.
With GPS subscriptions (the ones I’m aware of anyway) they will still navigate you from A to B when you stop paying the subscription, you usually just miss out on traffic updates, map updates and other localized enhancements. If there are any that deny you navigation outside the subscription that’s plain scummy IMO.
I’m not familiar with Sirius Radio but from what I can see online, it’s a satellite radio subscription service that seems to bring new things to the table (like starting a radio station at the beginning of a last song etc). The hardware appears to actually serve a purpose, i.e. it’s the satellite receiver for the radio service subscription. I believe we could compare this to buying a Starlink dish for internet access, and paying the monthly subscription. The spotify device shown here is not a standalone device and is only fitted with bluetooth IIRC, requiring a phone for operation.
In comparison to Spotify, Sirius does not appear to have ever had a free plan - whereas Spotify does… I see is no reason why Spotify could not make their free plan usable on this device.
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The device is free to premium users. It’s a marketing device for the premium subscription.
The box clearly states that a premium subscription is required.
Assuming you’re referring to the Sirius radio, it makes the Spotify device an even worse proposition IMO
Edit: Clarify assumption
Glad to see someone mention that the subscription being required for use is clearly conveyed. It’s not like this was some hidden information
Wait, why would you buy that? Do you not have a phone?
I don’t own one. But having real buttons is always an advatage for me when driving a car. I think my car can do everything the “Car Thing” did via the buttons on the steering wheel and the screen of the radio (or multimedia screen or whatever we call those nowadays), but if I had an car that can’t I might have been interested.
Fuck streaming. Return to a big dumb pile of MP3s.
Instructions unclear burning 8 track tapes.
I still buy CDs and rip them. All the music I want on my phone ready to play from headphones or the car
That must be expensive as fuck.
Yeah, I love streaming for music. About $10 a month and I get seemingly every song I’ve ever looked up. Streaming video has a lot of problems with fragmentation, but music doesn’t seem to have nearly as bad of an issue. I use YTM and have never not found what I wanted to listen to. $10 is like the price of a single CD (or was – it’s been well over a decade since I’ve even looked at the price of CDs).
I’ve also listened to a lot of full albums on streaming (it’s often what I do when I discover a new artist that I like) and there’s never an album that I’d want to buy every song from. My music tastes are also very diverse. My liked songs are full of tons of songs that may as well be one hit wonders to me. That doesn’t translate well to buying CDs.
I stopped listening to music, radio or nothing. I’m tired of being constantly stimulated, I desire peace and quiet
I actually really love the idea of spotify, but their execution is fucked. Joe Rogan’s getting billions and musicians who make up the overwhelming majority of the plays get microscopic returns per play. That’s bullshit.
Thus makes me kind of glad I still use pandora premium instead. I debated getting Spotify premium again but f that.
Can I have it? I’d never buy one but I use Spotify constantly in my cab. It’d be nice to have it not attached to my phone.
Buy a second phone?
Am I missing something, or why would you assume or expect that a Spotify peripheral could be used without a Spotify subscription? What even is this thing?
Based on OP it has other functions than just Spotify.
But things like that shouldn’t need a subscription. It’s a shitty thing to do.
Pelton, this car thing, etc. Have other functions that don’t require the subscription but by making it mandatory they give you a unusable piece of junk if you ever cancel.
Because Spotify has a free tier that still let’s you use the app and listen to music, just with ads
Spotify is a terrible option to use in 2023. I highly recommend Tidal for anyone with good headphones, speakers, Dac’s, etc.
Honestly, I hate to say it, but even Apple music is a MUCH better solution right now.
Nah. Tidal’s collection is nothing compared to Spotify’s and I, like most people, don’t have the equipment to actually benefit Tidal’s higher bitrate. I don’t even have any wish to upgrade, I’m happy with Spotify’s quality. I listen to mostly non-English songs and let me tell you, Spotify is miles ahead of Apple Music there. For English music, I find them mostly comparable. But Spotify has a nice Linux app, so they get my money.
Spotify uses 320kbps ogg vorbis when on max quality, I would be really surprised if people could tell a difference compared to lossless.
Have you looked up jailbreaks? Quick search and I found a subreddit devoted to it and this.
Honestly, what else did you expect? Lifetime Spotify Premium for $100? It was a shit product ever since it was launched. You bought it, it’s on you.
I would have expected that the ad supported Spotify would have still worked. There is still a free tier.
I guess that’s a fair expectation.
Google spotify premium mod apk and don’t use gmail to make an account, it should work
Why no gmail? XManager has been working well for me (Microsoft email) for a couple years now.
Fuck spotify, I use http://radio.garden
I’m definitely using this
I mean to be fair, Spotify as a company clearly would rather give millions to right-wing shitheads than ~anything else.
Out of all the things that Spotify is shitty for that’s the least of my worries about them, and I fucking hate right-wing shitheads. People would rather see the artists they love starve if it gave them convenience to enjoy their art without actually paying for what they do.
It’s honestly kind of baffling to see people go up in arms enough to side with fucking Disney “in support of artists” because AI is supposedly stealing from them and the same people go on with their lives and put on Spotify and feel self-righteous. People fucking suck.
/rant
and the same people go on with their lives and put on Spotify and feel self-righteous
Yeah but consider that for me for example, I was previously giving exactly 0 to artists. Now I give whatever tiny amount my odd song played here or there pays out. Which is more than previously.
Is it a lot? No. Do I listen to a lot of music? Hell no. Did I buy any music before as a result? Fuck no. And now I sometimes listen to some. Plus the music I listen to I couldn’t buy in physical anyways (low-fi or synth background noise while coding), and wouldn’t know where to buy digital even if I wanted to. Previously I just used a noise generator, btw.
It’s probably not a good idea to assume that 100% of listeners on spotify would have invested that same amount of money into physical sales.
How else will Joe Rogan be able to afford his basic necessities like subverting democracy 🥺
wait they DO THAT??
I’ll need to rethink my choice in streaming platforms, because that’s messed up
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not but they gave Joe Rogan a platform and pay him a lot of money for it. Probably other stuff too if they support that.
what’s wrong with Joe Rogan?
He’s a lunatic
Horse dewormer man.
Alex Jones Jr. Wing nut conspiracy theorist.
He’s the male Gwyneth Paltrow selling brain pills instead of Goop. He promotes alt-right and far-right conspiracies. He told people not to get the COVID vaccine. If he just interviewed people – even people from all sides – I’d be fine with it. Problem is he promotes dangerous conspiracies and usually ignores fact checking. He’s using his influence and authority to do harm. And worst of all, I think he just does it for the ratings.
It would be quicker to list what’s right with him
Imagine if they had spent that $50 million on programmers instead. They could have had the best music playing app in existence.
