Based dad!
Edit: daughter bad!!
hahaha
What on earth are you guys doing having to search the internet for drivers for Linux??? You not buy things that have Linux support advertised? Not looking for good reviews by other Linux users?
I once needed the driver to use “Floppy Streamers” under Linux. That is plain impossible with Windows. For Linux it just meant to recompile the kernel-module each time you updated the kernel which basically was “make && make install”. Then at accessing /dev/qic-nst0 I had a Floppy Streamer.
Yes, sometimes you need drivers under Linux. But it is VERY rare.
Linux gas drivers in kernel, i have hardware that gas no need of anything else
I hate searching for drivers too!
But… carefully skimming through pages of drivers was the best part of installing older versions of Windows.
The newer ones too. Online Microsoft drivers are not always the ones you actually want to run.
I’ve only seen that happen with AMD cards from an 8yo laptop, where the Microsoft provided driver somehow lacked OpenGL support. And my desktop’s sound driver, where only the older driver supports my setup. But those are the only two cases that come to mind since Win8 came out
Do people still have driver issues on Linux? What hardware are people using? I’ve been using Arch literally since it came out. I can’t remember the last time I had any concern that the laptop I bought would run Linux, …actually I do remember, I had a laptop with a modem that didn’t work right off the bat (or ever since it was 2008 and never tried to make it work).
bag pack? its backpack, no?
Backpegg
Thx, corrected.
You can do that? 😮
Yes you can!
no. youre crazy
Lemmy lets you edit headlines and change pictures.
Meanwhile, Windows in 2023: “oh, you plugged the same flash drive into a different USB port? Better reinstall a new set of drivers!”
"Let me search for a solution
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No solution found"
Has the annoying “search for a solution” window ever found a solution?
Yes for stupid stuff like turning off the network device, to cut access to the internet. Windows finds by itself that the network device is disconnected and reconnects it by itself. Granted it’s not much, but it’s as complicated to find that menu than to run that utility.
2003*
Never had my PC (win10: 2016-2022 and win11: 2023-now) install a driver for a USB stick ever.
Even some external devices are painless.
And I see plenty of PCs in my job.Edit: Win7 on the other hand…
huh every time I plug my Logitech receiver in a different port I get a notification about a driver installation, fortunately it’s almost instant on my new pc but it’s still weird that we need that in 2023
I once was fixing someones computer booting with Bluescreen, because Windows 7 thought it found newer drivers for USB 3.1, and those newer were causing BSOD
I still have it from time to time that Windows has to install a driver for something benign like a thumb drive. Not always, though. And yes, the driver is fixed to the physical port. Using a different port reinstalls the same driver again.
Experienced this exact behavior on Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10 and Windows 11.
I’ve seen this so often on Windows Vista, and I’ve never seen it on Windows 10.
Granted, I’ve switched USBs in the meantime, so maybe it’s just the USB?
I see it regularly with Win10, and I also see plenty of PCs in my job.
Never had that happen since… XP at least? It’s been too long for me to recall 95 and 98…
I just didn’t like the complexity to get in house game streaming to work. Moonlight/sunshine should work. But I also wanna be able to just remote my entire desktop. Do much easier on windows still.
The last panel is wrong. It should read “then stop buying shit hardware!”
Having said that, the last windows upgrade I did for someone - honestly, it was a hardware swap and data copy - also included new printers, webcam (webcam!) and wireless mouse because win10 was like “yeah, fuck you, we hate hardware more than 2 years old and we dropped support, so go get new stuff, Skippy.”
So it happens with linux or windows, but for different reasons.
So the old mouse didn’t work in Win 10? I find that hard to believe.
What kind of special ass(-)mouse was that?
This seems very niche for L/memes !
Missed opportunity to say “for tux sake”
Ohh, the agony…
Ah yes, windows where I have to somehow figure out how to install the drivers for my network adapter before I can actually connect to the internet, on top of having to go to a different website for each device that needs a driver to find the correct one, download it and install it.
Vs Linux, where network (and most essential) drivers are baked into the kernel, and all other drivers (for peripherals, etc) can be had via a package manager, where you can often find free and open source solutions. Also, video drivers are automatically installed with the OS (provided you are using a distro with a proper graphical installer for ease of use, cough use Endeavour cough), and automatically updated when the system is updated.
What kind of weird or shitty NIC you’re using that needs a specific driver for Windows?
Lenovo IdeaPad Pro 5 Gen 8 Notebook comes with a MEDIATEK MT7922. Windows 11 does not want to install unless you circumvent the requirement for Internet or supply it with a manually downloaded driver.
Linux? Just works.
TP-Link Archer T6E, one of the most popular on the market
When I first tried Windows XP, I had to figure out how to install storage drivers in order to install the OS.
And back at that time if you installed any flavor of Linux you were lucky if the OS install didn’t fuck itself over, also God help you find drivers, assuming that they even existed. At least xp would function.
As of windows 10, windows will always function on pretty much any hardware out of the box. Some obscure Chinese WiFi dongles might have some issues, but main board drivers are always right there.
Linux users have this weird echo chamber where they seem to think that Linux just works. It can but it’s a 50/50 chance that it won’t and you’ll spend hours troubleshooting. Also os updates on Linux have a high probability of borking the entire os.
Windows, for all of it’s many many faults, generally does “just work”. It might not be perfect, but it will function.
If you want to have some fun install Windows 10 on a hard drive. Disk usage will go to 100%. It doesn’t do this on SSDs except maybe very rarely. I’m pretty sure this is not a bug, but intentional so that people will buy a new PC. Windows 7 will run flawlessly on the same hardware. Although Linux is starting to demand higher hardware specs than it deserves.
And back at that time if you installed any flavor of Linux you were lucky if the OS install didn’t fuck itself over
I was using Linux religiously back then, and this is false. As long as there’s a driver for all of your hardware, it generally worked fine.
But that “as long as” is doing some heavy lifting. The usual suspects were pretty much the same as now: Broadcom, NeoMagic, and NVIDIA. Some cheap printers and modems were problematic as well, but if you paid for good hardware, it would probably work.
Do you realize WINXP is TWENTY FOUR years old now???
I just installed Windows on my daughter’s new [to her] computer last night and this did not happen. Don’t get me wrong, I loathe Windows, but c’mon.
I had the ethernet in my desktop mobo not work when I tried upgrading to win11. Worked fine in 10 but no internet on 11.
I also had a very difficult time getting a Xbox wireless controller adapter working on win 10 without spending about 2 hours searching.
Windows usually works but sometimes it just fucking doesn’t. Linux isn’t perfect either but I usually don’t have issues with my Ethernet ports not working.
Sounds like you clearly haven’t used Windows in over a decade, or even close to two.
I haven’t had to install a network driver since Windows XP. Even then it had drivers for most cards built in.
When I last installed Windows I had to google where do download Libreoffice, Firefox, Steam, Audacity, VLC, Gimp and a lot more software.
On Linux most came preinstalled, the rest was one click in the Repository (“Store” for Generation Smartphone)
When I last installed Windows I had to google where do download […] On Linux most came preinstalled
You can’t have it both ways.
On one day, you complain about all the so called “bloatware” that’s preinstalled on Windows (more “pre-linked” and easily installed, and these “links” are easily deleted).
The next day, you complain that the specific subset of software you want to use is not preinstalled on Windows.
Lastly, the way you go about finding where to get your software, that’s more of a philosophical question. Do I want someone else to curate a list of available software, or do I want to visit the publisher’s website and get it directly from the source?
At least on Debian/Ubuntu I can use tasksel to select a useful preset of packages right while installing. Base is just a text mode shell with minimal command line tools, Server has some Network Stuff, LXQT, Gnome and so on… for the total N00b it is fine to default to KDE or Gnome, I prefer LXQT though. And tbh, I think Firefox, Libreoffice and VLC are useful preinstall in nearly every use case while the usual stuff on Windows is pretty useless (Another Antivirus? Really? A trial version of a paint programm inferior to Gimp 1.0? Office 365?)
I had a similar situation with my ryzen 1600 motherboard, except it was the sound card. Everytime windows updated it would dump the driver I installed and try another one that was broken. I had to keep my sound drivers on the desktop so I could reinstall them. This occurred even after I reinstalled windows 10 on a different ssd.
I tend to have driver issues more so with Linux than windows in my experience. Both seem to be capable at the very least of automatically installing a lot of the drivers without user intervention.
Nowadays it’s more of a fight against the update-provided drivers though.
There are much more devices and peripherals available for windows.
It’s more like new harware have drivers for the last winwdows directly but not always the case for linux and have to wait someone make one. But on old hardware it’s the reverse it’s already on linux but the windows one is no more compatible
