Today I posted a picture of a stamp with an animal in it and they said the picture contained nudity and made me take it down, but I reported a photo of a guy with a fully visible swastika tattoo and they said that’s fine.
I’d like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.
I like the initiative, but isn’t facebook basically dying? As far as I know it’s only corporations, nazis and qanons left. Even the boomers started leaving. I might be wrong though. It’s been a while since I cared to check on facebook.
All in all that would make a great source for bad photo’s
My social circle (aside from me) use it for event planning and marketplace
I don’t know that it’s dying but still it’s a force of evil and I’d like to fight back.
i hope it takes linkedin with it
I’m not very active on linkedin, but it seems fine. The job listings are a bit shitty. There’s other platforms that offer better job listings. Also there’s a couple peopke who treat linkedin as facebook2.0, but I can mostly ignore those. I use it to keep a professional network and linkedin seems to be doing an okay job at that.
LinkedIn is the human centipede of social media.
That’s… actually a great description of what LinkedIn essentially is.
LinkedIn is fine if you just use it as a job board. I got my last two jobs from LinkedIn ads. But using it as a social media will drive you insane.
“I’d like to say thank you to [company name] for hiring me. To the unemployed, get fucked.”
I am DEEPLY humbled to describe how fucking successful I am 🥰
Lol I hate those posts so much
You also have to word it like a tome that reads like you’ve discovered cold fusion and have amazing philosophical insights all due to your amazing colleagues at your internship
Why would anyone use LinkedIn for anything other than presenting your professional credentials? I can’t even begin to explain how terrible of an idea it is to post on social media with your resume attached and your career on the line.
using it as a social media will drive you insane.
Especially if you use the mobile app as it is riddled with ads and there are no mods available as far as I know
Using any of these websites’ apps is insane.
Y’all WANT all of your data harvested, huh?
I’ve never understood why people use it for socials. Jobs! That’s where it fits in my life. Last two have been through there. That’s all it is.
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Yeah it’s basically like an mlm and boot licker haven
There is a person I work with who has the unofficial job of LinkedIn stalking our competition. You can get some ideas of what they are doing this way. Are they looking for someone with this particular skill set? Maybe they are trying to get into another sector. I got a bio on my counterpart over there.
I’d like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.
I get why you feel this way, but this feels a little superfluous. Like, making that community will never, ever change how Facebook does business, we’re not going to shame them into being better by cataloging the terrible shit they allow. In other words, all we’re doing is choosing to make a forum filled with the horrible, hate-filled posts that Facebook says are okay. I’m honestly more comfortable just leaving them on Facebook and not posting the same vile garbage here to make fun of it, because I don’t think it will change anything other than a history of hateful posts on Lemmy.
We can make fun of how much they suck without bringing their awfulness and putting it on display over here, especially when doing that isn’t gonna change a damn thing. Facebook has the “fuck you” money to ignore it.
I just would love to fight back in some way.
delete Facebook
I personally find it hard to do because I have all kinds of old Livejournal friends on there.
I’d argue we’re already fighting back by being here and choosing something like Lemmy over Facebook.
The more users they lose to competing sites that offer more community for the user, the more their influence will wane and eventually they’ll become like MySpace and it honestly won’t matter anymore, because who the fuck uses MySpace? I honestly think Facebook is coming close to this because young people don’t want to use it anymore. It’s no longer “cool” and hasn’t been for a while. Sure they’ve got Instagram on lock, but they’ve been having a hard time competing with TikTok.
Facebook isn’t a foregone conclusion and, personal opinion of course, the best way to fight back is to simply take away their ability to track you by deleting your profile, visiting Facebook as little as possible, and using Facebook containers in your browser to keep them from being able to develop a shadow profile for you.
Reddit has lots of subreddits making fun of that kind of thing from Facebook as well, and it hasn’t changed how Facebook does anything. I don’t think pointing out how much they such and documenting it actually does anything to them, in the long run. Getting people to stop using their services is a bigger deal. Because people using their services is how they collect data, which they sell to make money. Hit em in the pocketbook, it’s the only way.
Also, by definition such a community would contain a bunch of things we don’t want to see on Lemmy either. So probably better not to.
Exactly!! Why showcase shit we hate? Why spend energy on shit we hate?
That’s a good point. It just makes me mad they get away with this.
I searched for a community named “FacebookSaysItsFine” and haven’t yet seen anything.
Be the change you want to see in the world!
I just worry people will post things like CSAM on it, but I think it would be very good.
Try to stay apolitical and you won’t attract those trolls as early. Which I now realize may be difficult, considering many of the posts would be calling out Nazi scum…
It would definitely require some very active moderation and clearly-defined community rules. But it sounds like a great idea for a Lemmy community, if you have the time.
Cloudflare has free CSAM scanning tools available - they really just need to implement it.
When did “CP” become “CSAM”?
If you want to change the acronym, wouldn’t “CR” make more sense?
'cause porn is made with consenting adults. CSAM isn’t porn. CR is typically what’s depicted in CSAM (assuming that R stands for rape), but there’s two (or more) separate though closely related crimes here. That and SA (sexual assault) covers a wider breadth of activities, which is good if a person wants to quibble over the term rape when regardless something horrific happened to a kid and videos/images of said horrific thing is now getting shared among pedophiles.
Will note I’ve only seen CSAM used when I started using Lemmy, so I’m not really sure when people started using the term over CP. I’m personally for it - it more accurately describes what it is, and while I haven’t seen this term in the wild SAM to describe video or images of non-consenual sex acts among adults is good too.
I modded for Reddit before, I could manage this.
I worry about this on fediverse stuff. I made the mistake of looking at the links from a person who commented on anti trans legislation and let me just say yikes!
The link was to something trying to legitimize the identity of “map.”
NOPE.
I deleted my comments and blocked the sick bastard.
I blocked some instance that was all porn and that seemed to improve my experience. I’m not against porn, I just don’t care for it myself.
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Yes I absolutely hate it. If people want to watch porn, have at it, but could it please be on a porn site?
I would suggest the opposite. Perhaps a Facebook doesn’t allow this, community. Too much risk of attracting trolls and monsters.
That said. The FBI says that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter et al. They all contain a not insignificant amount of CSAM at any given point in time. The fact just never gets reported by press because they’re normalized platforms by the public. Only the fediverse gets that sort of negative attention in the press because it’s the disruptive outsider platform. When by both proportion and volume, almost all other platforms have a worse issue with awful content that regularly flies under the radar because they are big corporations.
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Just delete your account, stop using it.
but what other honest and trustworthy corporation do I give all this valuable personally-identifiable information to?
I promise if you give it to me it will be secure since I am such a failure of a person I will lose it.
Can you send me page after page of ads and sprinkle in people in third world countries making street food or doing some jank trade work?
I find it hard because of my Livejournal friends, it’s the way we’re still in touch.
Livejournal is still there. I have a permanent account from back when they allowed you to purchase an account for like $100 USD. I mailed them a check and everything.
All my photos and everything are still up. I see other people blogging there too. I still get email notifications from there too.
Just go back to using Livejournal. It’s a fine platform honestly.
Hell I went back to using just tumblr and nothing else really aside from Lemmy as a message board.
I gave it up because it’s basically a Russian government propaganda machine now. Did you listen to the Reply All episode about it? I too mailed a check for a permanent account but it stopped feeling safe in about 2015 so I shut down, nobody posts or reads there anyway that I know anymore. I miss it terribly. It was the absolute golden age of social media and I am closer to those friends than I am to anyone else.
Yeah I stopped using it around 2010 and that was not long after it became mostly Russian. I can’t read Russian so I had no idea what any of those accounts were posting about and I didn’t bother trying to translate the because it was like 2011 and translation online wasn’t that good back then.
I’ve never listened to Reply All. I assume its a podcast.
Anyway, I’m in the US and I don’t stick my head into Russian politics because I don’t think its my place to do so. It doesn’t concern me and I feel like its none of my business and I feel like the US really shouldn’t go sticking their nose in other countries business but of course our government is full of fucking nosey idiots. Always has been and seems to me our history is full of us sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong. I’m not a fan.
So if you have some kind of moral grudge against whatever those people are posting - I can’t agree or disagree. It’s good you stand up for what you believe however.
It’s still just a platform though and there is nothing wrong with you and your friends going there, starting your own community so you can all keep and touch and talk to each other. No one says you have to interact with the Russians there.
It is a podcast and what they found out about Russian Livejournal is INSANE.
You know, I think I remember hearing something about that in passing. Might be a cool deep dive for later.
transcript: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/n8ho4m
By posting stamps with animals in it?
Lol it was a gift from a Livejournal friend regarding an inside joke.
Exchange your email with your fb friends and toss your fb account in the trash.
I made a Facebook account a few months ago, not to post on it, but to access Facebook Marketplace because it’s sometimes cheaper than Craigslist
I would pay NOT to have a FB account
which I suppose I do
I understand the intention but it’s not necessarily a platform thing. Lemmy has the same type of people, just in smaller concentrations due to it being less used.
As an example, I was called a fucking moron, a nazi and told “Fuck you” over a simple discussion over graffiti by a real gem on Lemmy. Until his participation, nobody was hostile or angry and throughout equating me with a group of people that perpetuated the holocaust because I disagreed with his stance on something so innocuous, the group mods seem to be chill with it and apparently enough people also felt my stance put me in Nazi territory because he got some upvotes.
My point only being, there are terrible people on any platform that are incapable of having a discussion without becoming the lowest common denominator and the platforms (Lemmy included) generally won’t feel the need to take action. It’s just part of the charm of the internet. We could just as easily create a /c/ for Lemmy stuff that shouldn’t be ok but is.
The mainly automated moderation on FB and Twit were infuriating when I used them, yes. I was suspended twice on Twit (pre-musk) for fairly innocuous comments. Meanwhile, when I reported literal death threats, I’d get back the message “we reviewed this and it didn’t violate our community standards”. At this point I deleted my Twat account and haven’t signed into FB in 4 years.
I deleted the app too ! But Facebook is hard for me to give up because I have friends from all over the world to stay in touch with, and it is the simplest way.
Mind you I have persevered and gotten a lot of Nazis banned from Facebook.
Why not have your friends join lemmy, start a new community around live journaling here and enjoy the freedom of expression y’all crave.
This will accomplish 2 things:
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Take revenue away from Facebook
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Helps increase user share for lemmy.
This way you all have the same interests working to your advantage
That’s actually a really good idea.
I do get them once in a while. Although, they tend to be fat and few between. Lol
I’m all for more Lemmy. Love this place.
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I kind of like that idea, do we have any Twitter users here to do something like that too?
Oh please Twitter should be fed to the sharks.
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Being an active Facebook user in 2023, after everything- and your prime complaint is that you couldn’t share a photo on it. May the flying spaghetti monster have mercy on your worthless soul.
If you know it, why use it? Just move on.
I used to use Livejournal and as a result still have friends from all around the world from it. I’d lose touch with them if I did.
I had similar situation with facebook. In a discussion, I posted a single comment about election results with numbers, percentages and a link to official governmental website containing that very same data, with attached screenshot of it for lazy ones. Facebook informed me that the comment violates spam rules and will be removed. No edit possibility, no peace talks, just removed. At the same time there are profiles loaded with hate speech, bigotry, racism and disinformation for years, and no automod, no algorithm was triggered.
That moment I sad fuck your algorithms, fuck your data, fuck your website, I can live without it. Just pulled the plug and deleted the account. I don’t need that hate-machine to keep in touch with my friends. And as long as people says ‘but my friends are there’, facebook will continue to roll hatred fueling algorithms and never change. No mockery, no subreddits or lemmy communities will change it, but every user less - may lead to a change, or better, a downfall.
Just delete the account.
edit: and try to watch the social dilemma documentary.
Facebook says this guy’s photo is absolutely fine by them. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086229708504&mibextid=ZbWKwL
I hate it so much but I have so many old Livejournal friends I’d miss.
Yes
I quit Fbook and all the “social” media a few years back, and haven’t missed it at all. Any “friend” who will only interact with me via Fbook/etc, rather than in-person, text, or even email or phone call isn’t a real friend, or real relationship at all. My life is quieter and my sanity slowly returned.
Lemmy is social media. Reddit is social media.
It isn’t the same, even if it pedantically has the same label. I have zero clue who you are or who you might be trying to be. You are two sentences at this moment to me.
There’s no “pedantically” about it. You said you quit all the “Social” media a few years back, yet, here you are, posting and participating in social media. Be as flippant as you want about it, you’re either and idiot or a liar. If we apply Hanlon’s Razor here, I think we’ll all come to the same conclusion.
Based and forums-pilled
I love how you try to hard to not define fediverse as social media.
Are forums social media?
Yes
