I gone through a lot of hosting service providers and unfortunetly cannot find a single one that can be used without running nonfree programs, all of them require loading bulky obfuscated JavaScript apps.
I know of Codeberg Pages for static sites for example, but it is not suitable for any business or professional use.
Dreamhost
Or buy a domain somewhere like Gandy or namecheap and host the website on a VPS somewhere
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Gandy or namecheap
I’m pretty sure they require proprietary client-side scripts to function as well.
Why not just go with a VPS? Then you can run whatever software you like.
Still need to somehow buy VPS and I can’t find a provider that do not require additional software.
I am confused why you think it requires additional software. For example, I personally use DigitalOcean, and that allows you to spin up servers via their website. No extra software needed.
When registering on DigitalOcean: “You need JavaScript to run this app”.
Okey, so let’s check this scripts: https://ui-cdn.digitalocean.com/registration-next/399776b27f10a89571b17850f82383af2841fa66/static/js/main.9e36ba61.js
Seems like an extra software to me.
You need Javascript to run things like remote consoles and metrics dashboards. I don’t think its something you can really avoid tbh.
Why do you want to avoid Javascript so badly in this case? If its a matter of trust, a VPS provider can do far more damage by just using your payment information or messing with your server directly.
Web remote console or live metrics are understandable. But requiring scripts to register or show a header is something I try to avoid. And not because of security or privacy but out of principle of simplicity and healthy web ecosystem.
I think he’s calling the website that is running non-free javascript as an additional piece of software based on his commment on “bulky obfuscated JavaScript apps.”
So…he wants to email somebody to create a server for him? This seems highly impractical and unnecessary lol.
The separation is pedantic, but you can have dynamic websites without JS or with free ones. The argument is basically the server-side software only see the data you input, but client-side malware can extract information or do other nasty things you can’t observe or prevent.
I get what you mean, but OP’s gonna have a hard time finding any website, much less a VPS provider, that doesn’t have Javascript in it and for good reason. There’s things like remote consoles and status dashboards that simply don’t work without Javascript.
If its really a concern, you can run the Javascript in a separate browser instance, but I find that precaution to be completely unnecessary because if you don’t trust your VPS provider, why would you trust that they won’t do anything to your server or use your payment info for nefarious purposes? The Javascript is the least of OP’s concerns IMHO.
Or just via web browser that can show websites and does not run any random script that was send to it.
Something like that would be seen as huge deal when talking about mobile or desktop programs, but somehow when browsers do not show how many MB of additional software they downloaded to build a webpage (that in my opinion should already be build by the server) somehow we all assume there is no software.
Something like that would be seen as huge deal when talking about mobile or desktop programs
That’s because mobile and desktop programs have far more access to your system compared to Javascript programs that run in a permissioned sandbox. They are not the same thing.
that in my opinion should already be build by the server
Eh, that’s debateable honestly. Sometimes pages built by dynamic Javascript have much a much better and fluid UI experience than server-side rendering, which require slow full-page reloads. To each their own though, there’s benefits and disadvantages to both methods.
What are you talking about? What nonfree programs? Can you give an example? Btw, for VPS you normally just need ssh, and that is free and even OSS.
What exactly do you mean? Typically you go to a website, register the domain, setup payment and then setup the nameserver. No need to install anything on your end.
Same with hosting. You sign up, setup payment, order a machine (root or virtual) and then you get SSH credentials and are good to go.
He wants one he an run without adding an exception on NoScript.
Personally, I don’t know of any.
I mean … that’s basically how the internet works today. And even if you don’t “run” proprietary stuff on your end, their service as a whole is still proprietary. So it seems like a pointless battle, IMO.
I would rather ensure to use a browser where I trust its sandbox to properly isolate the shit it has to run inside.
The question wasn’t about avoiding installing but running proprietary software.
But as I said: once the DNS entries are set up, everything is routed directly to your machine. What runs there is completely in your hands. Same with VPS/root server: SSH is free. Pick the client you like.
I don’t know of a single registrar or hoster that I can’t run without libre software.
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I get thy stand on this, personally I also have to compromise my software freedom to register my domains, but again OP asked to avoid X and saying after doing X you won’t have to is not answering the question.
But he said “proprietary software to run”, not to “setup” or “register” or whatever.
Ah yes, I bet thou canst also skip the booting part when thou runst software on thy compooter. And Jehovah (or an idol of thy choice) forbids any configuration or upgrade requiring a reboot.
Any domain registrar/hosting provider that does not require propietary software to run?
If thou dissectst this even more clearly thou wouldof noticed OP asked about running a domain registrar or hosting provider, not using their service. Also the word was propietary.
Now, if thou excuse OP’s imperfect English thou can find a clearer description below:
one that can be used without running nonfree programs
Like virginity, it’s either with or without innit, or doth thou prefer thy olive oil lightly fucked?
You can use Ansible to create domain names and register URLs on most popular hosting providers/registrars.
You shouldn’t avoid platforms just because they have non-free websites, that’s extreme bro.
Eventually I can use those sites, but I am curious is there is at least one provider that does not require running their code on my computer and just send me the HTML (actual site).
No reputable registrar requires you to run an executable on your machine. JavaScript is as far as it’ll get.
I’m sure many registrars work without JS, but if I had to be sure of any one in particular, it’d be Njalla. They even have an onion site and accept monero, so they almost certainly function without JS.
I don’t think you know what you mean/want. I never had any registrar requiring me to install anything to have my domain registered with them. The same is true about hosters too.
You didn’t, but your browser was even if it doesn’t tell you.
I’m unsure but maybe hetzner admin panel is usable without JS.
https://nic.eu.org/ I think would satisfy the simplicity requirement. It’s as barebones as it can be. But you can’t technically register a domain with it. You choose one of the subdomains under
eu.organd register a subdomain under it.
