Millenials were the original “avocado toast” generation targeted by boomers. We’ve been conditioned to protect our young from the real babies in these older generations. But there are good ones and bad ones in every generation.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I am a geriatric millenial and watching gen Z grow up has actually been incredible. It is a generation that has more compassion and self-awareness than the ones that came before them. I am proud of these kids (even though most of them aren’t even kids anymore).
Can confirm. Fight the power, fuck the system and all that jazz. I was told it was my “maximalism of the youth”, a phase that would pass, but I only become more and more radical in my views as I mature, so that was a fucking lie.
Yup, I’m 41 and I haven’t gotten less radical, just more detail-oriented in how we make it a reality.
You poor? Usually people get more conservative the more wealth they accumulate. I’ve got barely anything to my name which might be why I slowly getting more and more radicalized on the left. That and you know reality.
I grew up poor (rural Arizona, living in a trailer we couldn’t afford to heat in the winter, mom worked at Walmart, dad was a mechanic, just to paint a picture of what I mean). Both my parents are more progressive, we moved from the Bay Area of California when I was ten because we couldn’t afford it and also so they could get away from their druggie friends circle. Thankfully I liked science and had people who encouraged me, and I now have a PhD in molecular biology and my partner does computer programming and makes a lot.
But before I decided on science, my progressive parents + being poor + Intro Philosophy + Against Me anarchism-syndicalist punk rock made me want to major in some combo of history, economics, and political science so I could change/overthrow the system from within. I still have the anarchy tattoos behind my ears, though! But I think Scandinavian style Democratic socialism is better suited to modern technological society.
And now I’m in academia, most people here grew up middle class or upper middle class, and the entitlement is mind boggling sometimes. I’m learning more and more how to blend in with them, my partner is upper middle class academic family. But sometimes I still feel like some of them can tell I’m a dirty poor.
It just pisses me off so much that there’s soooo much wealth in the world and it’s all locked up by rich people. I read somewhere that a study by the Swiss bank found that if all the wealth in the world was evenly divided amongst every men women and child, each person would get like $30,000. That would be amazing! No more world poverty!
Anywho, it’s late, I’m tired and rambling. TLDR: eat the rich.
I went from Ayn Rand objectivist/conservative in my youth to full on tankie as I aged thanks to the absolute horrific violence of the Boomers and MAGAts. I fully endorse respondingnto them with exponentially more violence because they fucking deserve it.
My views haven’t changed one bit, I just had to make some compromises in lifestyle to survive (e.g. get a job).
But why only millennials that seem to get shitted on by every other gen?
I didn’t. I spent all my ttime telling you to arm up against the Boomers amd their psychotic progeny
Cause they want to complain about kids.
Not realising millennials are now between around 40-27 years old
I wonder if in the future, millennials and gen z will become the new boomers and gen X.
That will make me kinda sad. I just hope we don’t go down the same path…
Gen X isn’t naturally like this because of age, but because of political and media marketing that worked to stamp their generation with certain conservative values from a young age. If this is gonna happen to Gen Z, it will happen soon. But few tend to deradicalize once they are anti-capitalist.
Yeah, I’m honestly concerned since my parents’ political views changed radically the last 5~10 years or so. They were super loving and caring. Now they’re very “paranoid” about things that shouldn’t really leave them that stressed and xenophobic bordering full on racism. Overall gender related topics topics, random news on Facebook, immigrants…
I think that, if my parents that were so understanding and caring about everything and everyone, can somehow have their opinion change drastically in 5-10 years, what’s preventing that from happening to me, or my generation, down the road? I’m not trying to say that every gen X or boomer thinks that same way though. But a lot of them have grown more “resentful” I guess…
Yeah, computers and Internet aren’t their expertise so maybe they’re more likely to fall for fake news and clickbaity titles designed to infuriate them and generate views.
But who knows what’s coming? Maybe there’s something else coming up that my generation will be too “boomer” to understand. Maybe we’ll fuck up everything without even noticing we’re doing it until it’s too late. Maybe I’m just being too paranoid myself.
Think tanks are paid a lot to figure out how to dupe every generation and make fools of us. Should be obvious, but a lot of young “leftist” or “progressive” democrats are… maybe happier to tow the party line than they let on. And oddly support Israel, full-stop. Maybe we will vote in a “leftist” raegan democrat or something. The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
Pretty much, most of the gen x I work with are indistinguishable from boomers at this point.
kids don’t want to work these days
people need to just save more money
immigrants are taking all the jobs
[2hrs of scrolling]
Those are the genx’ers that now have wealth… the genx’ers without a pot to piss in are… err… pissed.
Almost like its wealth disparity, not age, is causing the problem after all!
shocked picachu meme.
Alternatively.
“No, it’s our children who are wrong”
The kids are alright
kids don’t want to work these days
Work at these shitty jobs? No, they don’t, and I don’t blame them!
I pumped gas up hill, both ways, all summer when I was 16 and used the money to pay for college, buy a house, and invest in oil. You just need to try harder.
I guess I’m lucky to live & work somewhere where the system kinda works, but the boomers are a great well of institutional knowledge, and the kids are working hard and changing the game. The ball was kind of dropped in the late 90s & 00s, but now millennials have surpassed gen x in terms of responsibility & authority in my industry and the zoomers I’ve had the opportunity to train are legit. I’m not sure what happened to gen x, but they all seem kind of sad and/or lost.
As a GenX myself, yes, I am a donkey.
The number of groups the younger generations hate is amusing. If only 75% of the population would die off they could live in the utopia they deserve.
Only 75%? What a deal, who could say no to that!
What’s wrong with gen x? I remember being repeatedly told growing up that we were the first generation for which things were gonna be worse than the previous. Lo and fucking behold.
Pretty much
As a gen Xer, I’d rebel if my back didn’t hurt.
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Zoomers will have a rough time rebelling when they can barely leave their home. Obviously there is some hyperbole there, but with the ability to “socialize” via online methods they are far more introverted than previous generations.
This meme is lame (as ost have been in the short time I’ve spent here). Everyone blames their parents generation for everything.
Gen Z’s biggest problem (which spawns all the other problems) is being constantly online, but it’s hardly their fault. The older generations (which I’m part of) founded the internet, molded it into digital heroin, and then went ahead and purchased the kids their devices that had mostly no restrictions or protections.
It perfectly fits the Who Killed Hannibal meme.
Internet through the 90s and smartphone adoption in the late 00s-early 2010s changed so much about how people interacted. I was part of the last generation to adopt the internet growing up and can remember not having it.
Boomers get shit on but they at least had some fulfillments of their generational ideals, they probably changed their own world more than any other generation by their own will so far. They had civil rights and strong unions which counts for something. They couldn’t escape the apparatus that sustained them and will always be defined by it, all the rock and roll in the world cant bring down the institutions, they merely adopted it for themselves.
GenX was the exact opposite, the notion of authenticity going back to the boomers reached it’s apex at the exact time economic conditions stripped away any meaning and relevance of it. They both had the dream and saw it dismantled, got the first popular reactions towards the coming climate doom, with the backdrop of impending nuclear apocalypse. At least they could ride on the coattails of the post-war economy, and benefitted from the 90s.
GenZ actually has it the worst so far, they never had the dream GenX did. With internet and smartphones they now see themselves at all times from the perspective of how other’s see them, they exist fully saturated in this hyperreal space of endless consumption. They don’t have the economic benefits of previous generations, and their GenX parents probably need their retirement money. GenZ is experiencing the strain of the empire, the degradation of social services, the weight of the impending climate catastrophe, meaningless politics and all routes for change blocked off. They have the fake world to escape to and can experience anything they want at almost any time. They are self-aware of this though, at least the smart ones are, they know it’s bullshit but they don’t think that matters, and they’re absolutely right.
Something about the demise of 3rd spaces (ie public parks) also plays a role. Just yesterday was told we couldn’t have a library in our neighborhood because of lack of surface level parking.
Minimum parking requirements in cities need to be abolished
But then you’ll just be making it harder for my automobile overlords to have complete control over our shitty infrastructure! Don’t you just love going anywhere and seeing nothing but parking lots?
Gen Z’s biggest problem (which spawns all the other problems) is being constantly online
huge citation needed…
couldn’t possibly the rigged economy, two tiered justice system, racism baked into every system, religious fundamentalism, imminent environmental collapse, no it’s the phones…
Your argument would be valid if this phenomenon was specific to USA, but it’s not. It’s happening (to my knowledge) everywhere where kids were given unrestricted access to the Internet. That’s the common denominator, not political or social issues.
That we also have political and social issues is not making the situation easier, but I don’t believe that’s the root cause for kids’ increased mental issues. The previous generations had their part of alarmism and issues as well – e.g. world wars, nukes, oil crises, cold war, smaller wars everywhere all the time (Korea and Vietnam even constituted a general draft in the US, which must have not been a great time), satanism panic/red scare/gay scare.
I think his argument is valid, just as yours is.
You’re right it’s not only the US. But he’s also right that phones are not the only reason / common denominator. Basically every country has a rigged economy and a two class justice system - some more, some less. But the ruling class secured their privileges everywhere. Our planet’s doom looming over the horizon is also a global phenomenon.
What unrestricted access to the internet is doing: it’s making everyone much more aware of those things, their global scale. Everyone gets a feeling of how bad it is because there seems to be no greener pasture anymore.
Whaaat? I love gen x!
AFAICT Gen X should really just be split into Boomers and early millennials.
I’m a late gen X (1978) and do not associate with boomers at all.
We’re basically millennials before the internet.
That is what I think about when thinking about Gen X. I have clear examples because I’m myself in the millennial range, my (much) older brother is Gen X and my parents are boomers. I’d never lump my bro with the boomers and I consider gen X as a whole pretty chill. They’re all the bands I grew up listening to and carried the bulk of what made the 90s great. Boomers have fine individuals but as a whole they’re nasty.
It makes much more sense when a generation boundary is marked by some sort of significant societal shift. Like Boomers are people born after WWII ended. I guess Gen X kinda makes sense being defined as a generation that grew up after the civil rights act and the establishment of rock & roll. But it seems like there should also be something between that and the internet, because as you say there’s a difference in late Gen X. Maybe the advent of video games should be a cutoff. Someone who grew up with video games and VCRs in the 80s has a pretty different experience from someone who grew up in the 70s.
I’ve always been told the defining turn from boomers to Gen X was the end of the boom. Readily available birth control for men and women made family planning the norm. Gen X just doesn’t get a fancy name because they never got there “define with this” phenomena
That makes sense as a reason too. I think the 60s saw an undeniable cultural shift. The 80s is harder to pinpoint and yet I don’t know anyone born in the last years of the 70s that is comfortable with being grouped with Gen X without caveats.
Worth noting that Douglas Copeland who wrote the book Generation X that gives the generation it’s name cut it off in 1974 if I recall correctly.
I was born in 77. I am the Star Wars generation.
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Space Invaders
https://www.pewresearch.org/topic/generations-age/
Pew and a bunch of other think tanks are moving past generational studies as it seems that you are correct that you have more in common with people within 5 years of your age than people in your “generation”.
They needed think tanks to figure that one out?
You need studies to demonstrate these effects in a scientific manner so yes/no as it could be done by a scholastic institution if it wasn’t done by think tanks.
I’m also a late Gen X. Please, please, PLEASE don’t group us with Boomers. We’re nothing like them and proud of it.
Also GenX. Fuck everyone that isn’t my generation or I don’t know personally.
Gen X reporting.
Meh.
Hello fellow Xennial!
As a person born nearly a decade after you, I pride my generation (Gen Y/millennial) as also experiencing life before computers and the internet in your home, but still developing (sort of naturally) with all that (but still remembering what it felt like to be really and truly bored). Gen Zers born after a similar gap as between me and those born later, don’t remember life before the internet or 9/11.
I’m from 1980, so technically Gen X, but I’ve always associated more with millennials. My first phone (after I moved out of my parents’ house where we had landline) was a Nokia 3210 and I got my first email account in 1996.
You, my 1980 cousin, are Xennial! We have an analog childhood and a digital young adulthood.
See you in the third act :)
Also a 1980 baby, but because of my dad’s work, we had the internet, such as it was, in late 86/ early 87, and I literally had a computer available to me since birth. Some of us got started on the digital part early.
I am 86 baby and you are one of the only very few people born in 80s or earlier that had really early adoption to computers in addition to me. I could use MS-DOS before I could write anything else as I also had had computer available since pretty much birth also because of my dads job.
As a gen X it’s just nice to be remembered that I exist.
Still, I own my own home without my parents having to die, so I’ll rub that in your faces if you try to make me feel old.
I’m a gen-Xer who is still renting but I was never able to do a capitalism, and would be kept awake at night by all the atrocities I’d have to commit to do one.
Judging by the state of my town, I think the secret ingredient is living in a shithole.
I own my own home
Selloutt lol
So much better than renting. It’s imba.
I realised the other day I hadn’t heard that word in years, so I’m bringing it back.
You basically have to buy if you can afford it, only thing worse than paying a mortgage is paying someone else’s. I’m closing in on my mortgage in my 30s which I never expected. Going to a trade college allowed me to save down payment and never be jobless, and buying a shitty townhome during the crash in what became a highly desirable area, allowed me to move to a huge country property before the market caught up here. Odd but very fortunate set of circumstances.
omg imba. Now that is a word that ages you very very well considering you’re gen x
No one says Imba anymore grandpa.
The cool kids say OP now.
That sounds well based, fam.
Millennial or w.e, I think Gen X is pretty alright. They got shit served to them like all do now. We just need to happiness be
Same. I don’t even know why people shit on us. We’ve never really been in power, probably never will be --Obama is the closest thing we’ll ever have to an Xer president and even then he’s technically a boomer-- it’s just a fact that in comparison to the boomers and millennials, demographically we’ve never mattered.
Our little window for demographic leadership, based on our coming into the age in which we’d ostensibly be capable of governance, was stomped on by the boomer gerontocracy and the rage of the far more numerous millennials.
The upshot is that us Xers never really had a real go at demographic power, and to the contrary, were left to pick up what scraps we could from the absolute mayhem that the boomers left us with.
Just fucking die already old dude /s
What’s that! I can’t hear you through these thick brick walls I own and have paid for!
- has a recording of it playing thru a boom box while standing outside on your porch * does this help old man? i think its time for hearing aids
** Turns on mosquito alarm I’ve got too much tinnitus to hear **
Like, you know, whatever.
psshhhaa
Fucking thank you.
Gen X are old dudes. NOT boomers. I really appreciate that you made the distinction.
Have a rad day.
- does an 360 kickflip while california uber allies plays in the background * stay gnarly dude
Saw a video of Tony Hawk the other day. He is 52 and probably just did his last 720° turn.
The Birdman is gonna 900 over all our graves.
Woogidie woogidie woogidie
Old ass
