Edit: Apparently this community is too mentally healthy/sound to even recognize this meme lol

Count yourselves lucky.

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    Oh wow, in UK grippy socks “totes” were a 1990’s fad. Great fit for running about hardwood floors as a kid.

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    Ok kids, let’s review the requisites for involuntary hospitalization in the US (specifically regarding suicidal ideation)!

    Do you:

    1. Have a plan? ✔️

    2. Have the means to carry out that plan? ✔️

    3. Expressed the intention to carry out that plan in the immediate future? ✔️

    If all of the above are true and you tell your mental health professional, then you better pack those bags! If not, you get to go home.

    (That said, I’ve at least heard stories of some mental health clinicians apparently not understanding these minimum guidelines and committing people involuntarily with only 1 or 2 of these requisites having been met, so it may be worth it to review these guidelines with your clinician before getting too deep into it)

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      “How have you been this week?”

      “Counsel has advised me to not answer that question or questions that may imply an answer”

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      I’m good, how are you?

      Before we go any further, let me explain to you the guidelines for involuntary committment for suicidal ideation.

      Hmmmmm

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      Those are grippy socks. They’re often given to patients when they’re admitted to hospital. Over the past few years they’ve become synonymous with being admitted to a mental health ward.

      The meme is saying that they’re afraid of being honest to their therapist because their therapist might admit them to a psych ward against their will.

      Psych Ward Socks | Know Your Meme. A version of the meme I posted is even used in there as an example, funnily enough.

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        I didn’t know, we just had to bring our own socks and crocs. Was funnier that way tho, one kid had mouse shoes larger than his legs.

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        Over the past few years they’ve become synonymous with being admitted to a mental health ward.

        Never heard or seen this. Where did that get synonymous?

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          It’s a usa thing. Their psychiatric wards apparently also provide like actual therapy and psychiatric help too, from what I’ve read.

          I don’t know what it’s like elsewhere but in the UK, psychiatric wards are filthy, underfunded holding pens run by the dregs of the nhs. And you get no help, just held till they arbitrarily decide if you’re ‘safe to be released’ or not. You don’t get socks here, you get ptsd.

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            Inpatient psych wards are kind of all over the place in the US. However, as someone in the American medical field, I can confirm the grippy socks are definitely a thing.

            Generally speaking, inpatient psych facilities here are also filthy, underfunded holding pens run by the dregs of the medical community. Not all, and a lot of people.over here get into medicine specifically for psych but they’re outnumbered by the burnt out shitbirds who are just collecting a paycheck. You also get no/the wrong help here and they hold you for a minimum 72 hrs or until you’re no longer “a threat to yourself/others”. It’s often traumatic and life ruining because not only aren’t you helped, you’re thrown out on the street in debt and possibly out of a job because you missed 3 days of work, making your life measurably worse at the end than it was at the beginning of your admission

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        Ooooohhh i see, thanks for clarifying :)

        And yes, i would never be 100% honest to my therapist about what goes on in the back of my head. 🧠😅

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    "Apparently this community is too mentally healthy/sound to even recognize this meme lol

    Count yourselves lucky."

    In my country, we just don’t have those

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    Grippy socks are standard issue for all in-patients in most US hospitals because they prevent falls and the floor is nasty. Seriously please wear them during your stay.

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    While funny, please don’t be afraid to tell your therapist.

    If they put me in grippy socks for having suicidal idealation I would probably have my own dedicated room.

    Therapists are there to help us with this shit, not make us fear getting better. If your therapist doesn’t know, they can’t help.

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      Some therapists will help, others won’t. Some psych wards will help, others will give you more trauma. I recommend caution and research before telling a therapist about suicidal thoughts. I had a real bad experience at the behavioral health emergency center in Charlotte NC, and that wasn’t even overnight. I’ve heard good things about some residential places here in Oregon.

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        This may depend on the country but I as a therapist ask everyone anyway. And I’ve experienced many, many people over the years being afraid of speaking up. It’s always a moment of relief when it’s out there and they realize I’m not freaking out over it.

        I’ve pretty much heard it all. Including the various ways people try to approach the subject while still unsure how I will react. And I do think that is something you could try if you’re unsure about your therapist - talk to them about your suicidal thoughts and see how they react before you confirm plans or attempts.

        Chances are of course they can get quite a bit from your way of talking about it, because you’re definitely not the first person with those thoughts in front of them. The thing is - suicidal ideation is, depending on the type of disorder, quite common. If we’d admitted anyone who thought about suicide to a psych ward immediately they would be bursting at the seams and we’d get nothing done at all. So that’s not happening. As long as you can convincingly agree with your therapist on a plan forward (which could mean: Okay, I promise not to kill myself until next Tuesday) you don’t have to be admitted if you don’t want to. Which also would be an option of course. Psychiatric wards are emergency departments. They are supposed to be there for you when you’re seeing no light at all and in my experience, at least where I live and work, in fact have saved quite a few lifes.

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      I didn’t have my own room when they put me in there for suicidal thoughts, and insurance wanted me out before I was well, so they discharged me with no way home

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        True. They exhaust all other efforts before putting you in. It’s super expensive and its a lot healthier to be home if you can

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          For me, it was the fucking hotline that did it. They asked me if I had a plan, and I said yes, because I absolutely had a plan for exactly how I’d do it, still do. Apparently, that gets interpreted as “I plan to do it.”

          If I was going to actually do it, do you think I’d be calling the helpline? Hell, no!

          I’m never calling that damn number again.

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    really how do you actually trust anyone in healthcare when you know they could call the cops on you and basically kidnap you

    literally makes my blood boil seeing people / AI type the ever-present tiptoey ‘be safe’ ‘talk to a doctor’ CYA warning bullshit online – people get involuntarily committed for talking to a doctor! shut the fuck up!

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      There are cases where psychiatric admission is the right call though. Sometimes it’s literally life saving. Depression isn’t static - it goes up and down, goes loud, goes silent. When you’re deep in a life crisis, when you’re feeling like you’re losing your fucking mind and are actually about to kill yourself those are the places to go to get you over those critical days or weeks to recalibrate and reconsider. I’ve personally spoken to many patients who were completely releived afterwards and glad that there was such a place for them. If the alternative is a lost life, psychiatry is a valid attempt to get better, even if it doesn’t work for everyone.

      Of course it’s an even better route to get there by admitting oneself - I just believe the likelihood of that happening depends a lot on how afraid people are of psychiatric clinics. And they do vary of course. I personally still would go though. Before I end my life I guess there wouldn’t be anything to lose anyway.