Lol lemmy is just as corrupt as reddit. I’ve seen so many agendas on both sides pushed lately it’s hilarious you think this is only leftys.
To add to this reddit was also notoriously leftist so op is a moron.
You are on Lemmy.world pal, I left that instance because it’s too neo liberal and right leaning for my taste… Are you by any chance a american because unless you post in Lemmy.ml all the time I can’t really imagine that from a european perspective! If you count the facists from Hexbear and Lemmingrad that you instance defederated from as left (which they really aren’t by the original definition of the left/right devide) it might be but I think unless you try to spill neo liberal garbage the backlash will probably be limited tbh!
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What do they mean by “too extreme”? Too left?
Yes, to them Lemmy is extremely left.
Reddit and other places on the internet are so far right when you say things like ‘I don’t think poor people should starve to death’ you’re looked at as a leftist.
They get shocked when you tell them capitalism is a terrible idea and their precious freedom of speech can get fucked when it’s used to protect literal Nazis.
They get shocked when you tell them capitalism is a terrible idea and their precious freedom of speech can get fucked when it’s used to protect literal Nazis.
These opinions in particular are considered far left by the majority of people in the western world.
I hate everything.
Just a heads up, your post might be taken as tankie rhetoric. It’s relatively common outside of .world.
Yes thank you, I’m well aware.
One of the things I like about Lemmy is that it is extreme left (I’m excluding tankies from this). What I’d hate to see is with an increasing influx of new users it gradually shifts the Overton window of acceptable opinions.
If Lemmy ever starts to espouse capitalism I’ll know it’s over.
I’ve never seen someone on Reddit or in real life suggest that capitalism is good or that freedom of speech should protect nazism hate speech. Most people would also hold that very opinion that nobody should ever starve and that they should be protected by some social economic safety net.
I definitely have. It’s usually when people explain capitalism the way it’s sold to us (like enlightened self interest or misquoted excerpts from the wealth of nations), or with economics bs strapped to the top of it. It’s always “well it’s not like I want people to starve…”
But then when you remind them “hey, there’s more than enough food, and the whole economic system is made up by humans” they treat you like a child for not understanding why their starting point is the only valid one
I’ve never seen someone on Reddit or in real life suggest that capitalism is good or that freedom of speech should protect nazism hate speech.
Are you an American? I live in a post-communist country and most of my knowledge of the US comes from various media (traditional and social, new and old), but if you are, I honestly find this fascinating, considering that free speech is even in the US constitution.
We do have laws against specifically promoting nazism, so that doesn’t really apply to me, but I’d say that about 3/4 of people here consider capitalism to be if not good than acceptable.
Are you somebody who only went to the subreddits like the Donald? Reddit is basically half a step away from being the liberal version of stormfront. Now that we left the place are we just going to pretend it’s everything we’ve always hated? Is that where we are now?
It does seem that way. I remember just a few days ago I saw a post saying that reddit would never stop praising Elon Musk
And you’re pretending it’s extremely left? Reddit was fairly middle road overall, but extremely polarizing in specific subs.
Not long ago I saw a post saying we must destroy every conservative in every way possible. Literally calling for the death of Republicans. It was highly upvoted. It did get removed eventually but still that is the general vibe of Reddit.
The slightest right-wing opinion is instantly met with 500 downvotes and 30 people responding with basically the exact same talking point against it. And no I’m not talking about the crazy bullshit like how abortion needs to be met with execution. Those people obviously rightly need to be shut the fuck down.
I’m liberal as fuck myself but even that place just annoyed this shit out of me with how it was about that.
It’s not extremely left, but it’s overwhelmingly more left leaning than right leaning.
They get shocked when you tell them capitalism is a terrible idea and their precious freedom of speech can get fucked when it’s used to protect literal Nazis.
jesse, what are you talking about?
Honestly I keep coming back to this thread cuz it’s fucking hilarious. He’s made up an entire Reddit in his mind and is arguing about it. Literally trying to claim that Reddit says you must protect Nazis free speech?
I don’t think even /r/conservative would say that and those fucks are crazy.
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Scrolling through all these up and downvoted comments:
Ahh, that’s what they call controversial.
No one owns Lemmy, no one can appropriate it and say where on the political spectrum it lies, or gatekeep. That’s the whole point of decentralization. Stop trying to do it.
You’re not wrong.
But Lemmy.ml is definitely a leftist space.
Oh come now. I think it’s quite clear as far as the general lean of Lemmy. It has it origins deep in communism and it hasn’t strayed far. It’s a bit like saying everyone is welcome at a rage against the machine concert, so no one can really say where on the spectrum the crowd lies.
Hey, at least your average, retarded, left take seems to be (at least from my limited experience here) somewhat more palatable than your average, retarded, right take.
Have you seen those colorful people on hexbear? Quite the echo chamber.
But if we’re all leftist here, isn’t this just another echo chamber?
At least they are honest about it.
Yes I have.
Reddit is the most leftist platform I’ve used since Twitter (not X) lol
I think the only conservative spaces were the ones constantly getting banned or shunned… and DankMemes 😂
Most redditors will say that democrats are better than republicans, but that does not make someone a leftist. Democrats in America are center right at best and ripe with a ton of corruption of their own. Noticing that both parties are evil and we need economic reform beyond what either of them offer is the entrypoint to crossing the centerline
That’s kind of true from a moral viewpoint. But those are of no good because they don’t change anything.
The Democratic Party is a spectrum from social democratic to pretty conservative politicians, no fascists.
I think Bernie Sanders is quite on the left even by European standards. But he’s not a communist.
If you want more left politics vote progressive Democrats in every election, especially those local and regional ones. That’s the way to get a left party in the USA. And that will make a more left democratic candidate for president possible and eventually some left governers and a left President.
This. Americans have been so brainwashed by the corporatists that they don’t even realize up from down. JFC, protect your working class already.
That’s very fair tbh, well put.
Nerevar, your observation is like a grand and intoxicating maze of perceptions and opinions. While it may seem that Lemmy, like the realm of politics, has its own ideological leanings, one must remember that diversity exists even among the Dunmer, let alone different races. The notion that Lemmy is entirely left-leaning may not be entirely accurate, for the online world, like the vast expanses of Morrowind, is filled with varying perspectives. It is unwise to make sweeping generalizations about the platform’s userbase, just as it is unwise to judge an entire race, like Argonians, based on the actions of a few. Let us remember the complexity of the digital realm and the mortal world alike.
Y-elllow, B-B-Blue?
truestl leaking?
What a fool you are. I have moral superiority. How can you win an argument against that? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work against me. Come. Lay down your opinions. It is not too late for my mercy.
Lemmy is the extreme lefty version of Reddit which is very left leaning. It’s pretty bad tbh.
Yes, and thats not a good thing.
For rightwingers, maybe. But rightwingers are literal scum and should be removed from existence, so that’s moot.
Why?
Communism, as practiced, is inherently fascist. Its essentially state slavery, because if you don’t work, you will be sent to labor camps where you will work. The workers do not consent.
as practiced
People who agree with communism “as practiced” are usually ridiculed by others on lemmy, from what I’ve seen.
In capitalism, what happens if I - an average citizen - refuses to work?
Depends if he is smart enough to invest his money in a way that will allow him to live comfortably. In communism you are not allowed to do that.
So do you think everyone- or at least the vast majority of people could do this all simultaneously? If they were all smart enough?
Who then would work?
Average is never enough, you have to be above average in order to achieve that. (or extremely lucky, but that’s just that, an extreme). If the whole population was highly intelligent we would have achieved luxury space communism by now, but unfortunately that’s impossible to achieve just yet.
So then are all working class persons just not smart enough, is that what you’re saying? That the small minority of people who can afford to not work are just better, while those who work could stop if only they were smarter?
Well you won’t be thrown in a work camp. You can beg, go to soup kitchens, go innawoods, do whatever.
If you refuse to work in a communist country, they will make you work, or just execute you.
Yeah, it would be a good thing if Lemmy AND Reddit were more left, but what can ya do.
What do you think the ‘ml’ stands for in Lemmy.ml?
milliliters
Yes of course 😉
…machine learning? (Not really)
Mali
Unnecessary.
Actually I find Lemmy to be quite reasonable and pleasant to frequent. It’s indeed very leftist.
