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Users will be tracked with no opt out. Posts may be monetized, which will make content even worse No refund or any type of usable credit for users that spent hundreds on Reddit coins The entire vibe has done a 180° since all these new “positive changes” are rolled out.
wow, it really is just slow erosion of our rights, huh?
extremely disappointed that we are all fighting for our basic fucking human rights (e.g. privacy) instead of, i dunno, fighting climate change? There’s little hope that we can do what we did with the ozone layer again…
The problem is you (and many others, not singling you out here) believed you had rights on a privately controled web platform.
This has never been the case.
In the past reddit said and had “terms of service” that suited their business goals at the time. In the past, those goals were: Use VC money to grow the platform as large as possible as fast as possible.
Now that Reddit is looking to go public with an IPO, those goals have changed.
The goal is now. Generate as much revenue as possible from the user-base created with the VC money.
And it’s going to work simply because of people not caring and because of the difficulty of switching platforms. I myself am guilty of this, I’m still using reddit for the communities that haven’t moved over to Lemmy yet, though I’ve reduced my usage because I refuse to install the official app for Android after they killed third party apps. Now that Boost is available for Lemmy, I’ll be making the gradual switch. But I doubt the majority of users will bother doing the same.
No opt out? Expect trouble from the EU.
does Reddit still have a .onion site? I feel like perhaps you can use the .onion site and be able to escape this. the tor browser was specifically modified from Firefox to avoid fingerprinting.
Fingerprinting is mostly pointless once you’re logged into the site.
You can use Mullvad which is TOR but without the TOR.
Can you explain more about Mullvad wrt Tor? I’m shopping for a new VPN & looked into Mullvad extensively because it’s my #1 choice so far. What about it specifically makes you say that?
Mullvad the browser, not the VPN. They partnered with the TOR project to create it. So it has all the same browser protections of the TOR browser except that it doesn’t go through the TOR network so it’s actually mostly useable for general daily use.
Mullvad is probably the best choice exclusively for VPN. I chose Proton only because of their “suite” of products under a single subscription.
Ahhhh, my apologies…I completely misunderstood!
Thank you for taking the time to explain all that, and for the positive words about Mullvad VPN. My current subscription is almost up, so I should get it soon. Have a good one :)
I think this is more for accounts, since it tracks upvote/downvote, etc
It’s common to run different rulesets based on region
They did mention the options with different in some locations.
Penultimate, not ultimate.
The final nail will be when they kill old.nazidigg
This place won’t really win out as long as it’s exclusively just a big giant liberal communist fuck fest it has to be balanced or else it will never gain traction.
Go to Truth social for the balance YOU are looking for, fasci.
I like that you can’t differentiate speculation from your delusion
I like that you’re a fasci loser. It’s cute.
that’s okay we can both misunderstand reality I’m sure for our own reasons and that’s a beautiful thing.
You’re so close to acknowledging you’re absolutely stupidity it’s almost cute. Selfawarewolves should become a thing here.
Wonderful
It’s not the end of the world, it’s the end of the world as we know it.
Reddit is becoming a harsher place for the kind of community-driven, higher investment content that made it what it is today (which is less profitable) and a better place for mindless scrolling and sleazy engagement-baiting mostly fed by automatic content aggregators (which is more profitable).
Plenty of communities will remain due to inertia: switching platforms is hard. As far as I’m concerned, I will keep using reddit for two reasons: and to check in on a few communities that I am actually engaged in.
As a mod on reddit (who only reacts to pings these days) I would like to post an undramatic message „here‘s what happened, if you‘re interested to join our lemmy mirror, here‘s the link.“
Anyone got something I could use which will not set off reddit stans or get me replaced and the message deleted?
I found that the best approach is to just have the link in the sidebar. This was how several communities first started introducing discords when it was basically an unknown piece of software. It became normalized without anyone noticing when.
Thats what I did already. I might just leave it at that then. Thanks for the suggestion though. :)
I don’t think this will move the needle at all
Reddit mods had a chance to migrate but decided to sit and wait thinking they could change Reddit
It’s not about the needle, it’s about how Reddit acts during its death throes.
Reddit can’t make money unless they monetize every user in every way possible, including selling their personal data if they have it. The API garbage was an attempt to monetize users in ways even their own app doesn’t, and also an admission that advertising isn’t paying the bills, or they would have just started advertising through the API.
So now we’re seeing how Reddit behaves once they realize that charging for API access doesn’t work. They will sell everyone and everything until they shut down.
People should have assumed they were before
“Two days broooo”
Nah, they just don’t want to lose their god given right (and status) to be volunteer mods of reddits.
Reddit mods
I know tons of mods that left reddit and are on lemmy instances now. Had a chance to migrate? what does that even fucking mean, we can’t bring subreddits over. we can’t hold a gun to the subreddit population and say “goto lemmy now” and most of us were locked out by reddit for shuttering our subreddits anyway, and replaced with scabs.
Explain yourself for this shit take.
When the big subs had their vacations they had to put their lemmy instance (or other place of migration) on the page
most of us were locked out by reddit for shuttering our subreddits anyway, and replaced with scabs.
Hence the lost their chance
So it’s mods fault reddit went all musk? get fucked
It’s the fault of mods who tried shutting down subs instead of moving people
Anyone with a brain would know shutting down a sub would just see them being replaced so the ones doing that were just providing scapegoat outrage to keep people on Reddit
Just deleted my account
How can we help improve Reddit? Fuck Spez
I told them the same
On my to do list for today. Did you submit a formal CCPA delete request? Or just log in and delete?
I just logged in and deleted. I’m not even sure if CCPA has relevance for me as European.
About to go do the same, I still can’t believe how hard they fell.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
It just reminded me to as well, I was reluctant after 13 years but they can fuck off!
Its good I don’t use reddit anymore
We all know they’re still not going to leave. Also lol those people buying Reddit coins can get fucked.
People aren’t going to leave reddit all at once right away, because structure means that individual subreddits are very much isolated from one another in terms of users.
However, it’s likely that we will be seeing some kind of cultural shift happening there as quality get worse. I feel it’s inevitable that there will be more low effort content pumped out as quickly as possible than ever before now there is an actual monetary incentive instead of imaginary Internet points, and all personalized feed and ad is going to do is isolate individual users in their individual bubble and not allowing human connections to form between them.
Things are getting better here. The regulars recongnize each other’s name and personalitu, whereas on reddit all the usernames all blends together into an amorphous mass unless it’s one of those novelty accounts or e-celeb or something. That’s the key difference between Lemmy and reddit right now.
Couldn’t agree more. Those novelty e-celeb accounts on Reddit are getting really put of hand, aren’t they, Margot Robbie
Academy award-nominated actress Margot Robbie does actually spend most of her free time modding an android group on Lemmy - but you will never see that mentioned on mainstream social media.
Seriously, it really doesn’t take that much time at all, way easier than I thought it would be.
Any advice you’d like to give that would make somebody starting modding a lot easier, would be appreciated.
Don’t micromanage, I just let people do whatever they want but encourage them to do their best, and only remove/ban for people who absolutely won’t listen to reason.
You should also get involved with your comm by talking to people there a lot, so they don’t think you are just some asshole who’s only there to ban.
Thanks for replying.
Oh absolutely, especially those celebrities who comes in, promote their latest project, say some catchphrases, and leave. Why would they do such a thing?
Also, that’s Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!
Reddit’s not going anywhere until they ban porn and the hobby communities jump somewhere else.
Just wait for old.reddit being removed, there will be another wave of new Lemmy users.
yea, if I hadn’t been permabanned that would have done it for me but there’s still enough people on there that don’t even know old.reddit is a thing for that to really kill the site. I have a feeling a lot of people are willing to just put up with their shit for the sake of not really having anywhere else to go. Unfortunately at the moment unless you want to talk about politics or Linux the pool of content on Lemmy is pretty dry and I don’t know of any better options besides going back to independent forums.
I still have my account and check like once every couple weeks for 2-3 communities.
On PC, old.reddit, and no chance of getting a single ad in my face. I’m not technical enough to know if they’re getting other data from my bimonthly visits, but that’s a far cry less than my old every night visits.
As soon as they get rid of old.reddit it won’t even be reddit to me anymore. Just an ugly new thing overwriting the site I once enjoyed.
One thing holding me back from stopping to use reddit as a whole is using old.reddit in the browser. Can’t stand the new design, and once they remove that option - never looking back for real.
On mobile, Lemmy all the way.
With RES of course
I’ve found myself in the same boat.
Not sure how I feel about it, but it’s interesting to see someone else commenting about doing the same.
That’s where I’m at. I only access reddit from a browser using old.reddit.com these days. Once that option is taken from me, I’m gone.
tbh I can’t understand why people liked old reddit sorry I’m a zoomer idiot but still can someone help me understand?
I used to use reddit with Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES), a browser add-on/extension that has tons of customizations. This was even before there was an old/new reddit, it was just reddit.
So it’s not that we chose to use “old” reddit, it was that we chose not to use “new” reddit. Going to the new design breaks RES and we would’ve missed out on all of those customizations and quality-of-life features that were missing without it.
Plus, “new” reddit is designed for doom-scrolling and serving adds, and not about promoting users to engage in dialog. Most of my reddit interaction was around niche content, where I actually dived deep into threads. New reddit got in the way of that.
thanks
For discussions and news and long form text it’s infinitely easier to browse and read in the old layout. The new one is designed for media and for making you quickly jump between threads
More lightweight = faster and more content on the screen? Nowadays cool looking websites are slow and with 25% margin on both sides.
I feel the same all annoyed for example when doing some extensive search on PC vs mobile. No matter if it’s a shopping hunt on ebay or gathering information. On PC i scroll-click 10 links, iterate through them, Ctrl+w the ones being useless and chosing/read betwend the ones left. Something unclear? Double Ctrl+C and deepl pops up with a translation.
5min on PC vs 20min on mobile, where I have to click each link, fight those pop ups and cookies consent, go back, wait anoyingly long 2 second webpage loads and repeat.
It’s like reading a endless wall of text on old reddit. New reddit has so much more white space
oh ok thanks
I’m more of a list person than someone who prefers cards type of style. With a list, I find it easier to navigate and get a better overview of everything, rather than seeing just a few posts at a time without scrolling.
Can I interest you to old reddit like theme in Lemmy.
More here
https://gist.github.com/rystaf/4d591ffdcbaab1c49efa406885efd814
This looks awesome! How about a clone of the reddit website that masks as a MSN webclient?
Hi, just made this account after reading that. Fuck Reddit fuck Spez
Welcome!
Welcome. Tell your friends!!
Looking at Twitter/X, this won’t be the final nail. People stick to the platforms they’re on as long as it doesn’t directly Negative impacts them too much.
The difference, I think, which may make it easier to switch is that, on Twitter, you follow specific people. On Reddit, you only subscribe to specific communities, many of which have already been replicated in some way on Lemmy. You can’t replicate people, though.
Yet.I think you forgot that Mastodon exists. Either that or you simply refuse to mention it because it’s so desolate in there.
No, I didn’t forget it. It’s just that the “specific people” haven’t moved over to Mastodon, so people who follow those specific people haven’t moved over.
The “specific communities” (or at least the large ones) have moved over or been copied to Lemmy, so it’s easier for people who subscribe to those communities to move over.
I understand your point.
