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    Appeal rejected, but familiarize yourself with the content policy for future reference?

    I imagine they’re banning people all over the place now, I got banned from a sub for talking about apartheid in Israel a while ago.

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    I got permabanned for repeating a meme from the Fark days, yet there are posts of the exact same thing from 12+ years ago that are still up with no issue. Even noting that when I appealed the ban I got the canned “we totally reviewed it, fuck you lol” response.

    The only other time I had an issue was when I got a three day suspension for upvoting a Ghislaine Maxwell related post.

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    If you were actually harassing somebody I couldn’t care less. When you’re banned what does that look like though? Can you not view anything?

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      Reddit admins’ definition of harassment now includes singular insults if the admin is feeling particularly power-trippy. Doesn’t even have to be a swear word, my last alt got permabanned for calling someone (who I’d never interacted with before) a moron.

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      Your account still works, you can still view everything (excluding those that have blocked you), but you have a banner at the top that says you’re banned and you can’t vote, post or comment. You can’t send messages or use chat either.

      You can still edit your previous comments and posts.

      Justified or not, reddit have clearly stepped up their banning protocols, around 6 months or so ago or maybe even late last year (ie before the planned API price rise, well before even the announcements).

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        LMFAO.

        “Your account still works”

        lists all the many many ways your account no longer works

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          Lol yeah. But mainly you still have all your subscribed subreddits, multireddits and all that. Going from the front page of an account you’ve built up over many years to the latest default reddit can be a bit of a shock.

          Like I say though, the more annoying thing is the way it’s supposed to be a passive reddit experience, but all the buttons for voting and replying are still there. Yet, if you click them you get a pop up reminding you, and you can’t scroll again until you dismiss it. They should just remove the buttons.

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            IMO those are the least important aspects of an account. It takes very little time to resub to a list of subs you have right in front of you and turn them into a new multi. Overall the way bigger issue here is: everyone get the fuck off Reddit it’s fucking trash.

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              It takes very little time to resub to a list of subs you have right in front of you and turn them into a new multi.

              Depends how many subreddits. There are maybe tools around to make it a little easier, but you have to find them and dig them out of github.

              everyone get the fuck off Reddit it’s fucking trash.

              Yes to reddit being trash, but I wouldn’t be so exclusive. Sometimes you need to dig through the trash. Just be sure to remember that it’s trash, and wash yourself afterwards.

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                I can’t fathom going back to being a user there, it’s just too abusive and such a bad experience, but I’ll use old threads that come up on Google for their information, sure.

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                  It’s very easy to fall into the habit of reading a conversation and wanting to chime in. But yeah, the nature of the conversation on reddit has definitely changed over the years. The irony is that this is probably somewhat astroturfed to “increase user engagement”, when it is ultimately driving users away.

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        Well then I’d like OP to share his comment history with us.

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          Why? Even in a world where OP is an asshole Reddit should still tell you what comment is getting you banned and give you the opportunity to dispute it. That’s the main problem here, unilateral decisions you never have any insight on.

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            True, but I hate getting people riled up and commenting, if in the end this guy was actually just a POS.

            Edit: The web archive history shows they post in all the same type of communities and like talking about all of the same stuff that will get you the same end result here on Lemmy. Just seems like a human thing at this point when discussing politics/gender/sexuality. Like most other places it seems to take just a handful of people reporting you and you’re gone.

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          If they’re banned, then you won’t see their comments on their profile, just a banned icon. They might not see them on their own profile either on new reddit, however they can still access their profile on old reddit. This shows 1,000 comments in each list (New, Top, Hot, Controversial, with the date filters) but not necessarily everything.

          Incidentally, the tools most people used to edit/delete their reddit history only targeted these lists, so they’d quite often miss things - if you had a profile with lots of comments over a long time, with old comments that had low but not controversial karma, then these wouldn’t end up in your profile lists. As of late 2022/early 2023. Aside from all the comments reddit restored after people deleted (which they blamed on their CDN issues, as if that somehow absolved them), many people thought they’d deleted everything but in fact they’d left plenty of comments behind. They then deleted their accounts and now cannot access them, the vast majority are probably unaware.

          You should still be able to see their comments and posts where they are, so long as they haven’t been removed. However whatever got them banned was no doubt also removed.

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            Even if you’re banned, you can still make GDPR requests, which Reddit is required to comply with. They include your entire comment history.

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              Yep, and, at least until the API change, you could feed that into tools to make sure you got all of them. I didn’t see any of the comments I deleted in this way restored, however I did see comments restored when using the tools on my profile.

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      Sounds like you’ve never been banned in Reddit. You don’t realise how differently mods on power trip understand the word “harrassment”. Or anything else.

      Reddit is a trash place in general.

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        You’re right. I haven’t been banned on Reddit. I was more of a lurker though. Didn’t participate in any political/sexuality/gender things either.

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        The message and the is sitewide and from reddit. Subreddit mods weren’t involved

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        About 3 months ago I was banned for saying “People have the right to use like force to defend themselves against an attacker, including using deadly force. It’s not a happy outcome. But neither is being a victim.” It was a comment on an article about a homeowner who killed a burglar, so context is king. /r/news banned me and reported me for “threatening violence”. Then I got an account warning (whatever that means) by Reddit.

        When I contacted the admin team, I got a ban for abusive reporting.

        %reddit%.com is now blocked in my DNS. Fuck those fucks, they don’t even deserve my ad revenue from searches.

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          Reddit has a strict nonviolence in comments policy, whether it be in support of self defence, or defence of others. Exclusions apply to some extent in supporting state sanctioned police and military violence.

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            they’re not OK with violence except this type of violence which is an overwhelming type of violence

            But yeah fr fr they only reason they banned /thedickhead is because they started going after the cops. Extremely mask off considering all the other shit they said leading up to that point was way more violent but it was against people they didn’t like so it was permissible.

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            It’s not that strict. There was a thread full of people advocating the torture and murder of HP printer executives for their printer bullshit and nothing happened to any of them. I know because I was banned the day before for saying something similar about child molesters and kept an eye on that thread. I asked what the difference was in my appeal and just got their canned response that the ban was going to be upheld. Reddit admins care about specifically creating a safe space for child molesters… for some reason…

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            And then they turn around and host tons of fight subs showing video of people getting the tar beat out of them. If that’s what adults want to watch then more power to them but so much for the whole “no mentions of violence are allowed” rule.

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            Yet they let the post about the break in and shooting be posted. You just can’t comment on what was in the post? How stupid Reddit has become.

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          I said that I would smack someone from a story, and clearly in a figurative way. Banned for promoting physical violence. Okay?

          (I’ve never hit anyone ever, by the way.)

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        I was permanently banned on my first account of 11 years for saying “everyone would want to punch Nazis”, no prior issues ever, the appeal was instantly rejected. I was permanently banned on my next account for making the mistake of saying I was banned on my other account about 2 years after the fact. From that point on I was fully IP banned so I could only use Reddit with a VPN made account. If I ever accidentally logged in on my computer because I forgot, even years later, instantly banned. All because I said Nazis should get punched. As far as I’m concerned, this all started when China got involved in Reddit via Tencent and Ellen Pao. Reddit just, BY TOTAL RANDOM COINCIDENCE, became super defensive about anything China or communist related and started handing out bans any time people said no no words (sounds like TikTok to me.)

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            No they don’t. I can say that with confidence as it happened several times. The reason was always “ban evasion” and there were several months in between. So either someone else used the IP in that time and got banned and refreshed it, or you’re just wrong.

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              Huh.

              I had the same thing happen. Even a ten year account I didn’t use was included and any I made for a few weeks. So I left new qccounts alone and only used my banned account to view for quite awhile, then decided to make another account one day and it’s been working fine for quite a few months now. I made sure to not add all the same subs I used to have and just slowly integrated what I wanted back in.

              Maybe it was longer than a couple months now that I think about it, but I still think there is a limit.

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    I got permabanned on there after a mod took a “liking” to me over a pretty innocuous comment about a guitar pedal… something like “I dont need that pedal because I have X and it does the same thing”. Faceache followed me around other subs trying to stir shit up with other mods. A couple messaged me to say “we dont want drama, can you stop?” as I hadnt realised he was doing it until then. Others just took it at face value and about a week later I had the above message pretty much word for word.

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      Mods abuse power is a thing, it happens to even here in Lemmy.

      Though thankfully in Lemmy normal user has potential power to fight back with their own instance if they wish.

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        Yeah or make just make another account on a different instance or the same instance. Either way Mod abuse is significantly easier to overcome on the Fediverse.

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    Yea this recently happened to me. A had an argument with a mod and he reported a non offensive comment I had on his subreddit as a ban evasion. I got suspended for ban evasion despite not having another account. After my suspension ended he reported the exact same comment again giving me a second suspension. After the 3rd time I got banned entirely. 10+ year account with no prior suspensions/bans just gone because of one mod. Between that and RIF being gone, I’m just done with reddit.

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      Also ran afoul with a mod. Merari01 specifically. I reported one of his comments, and he sent it up as abuse of the report button. Insta perma banned. My account was registered in 2010.

      Reddit’s been awful for a while though so the loss wasn’t too bad.

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          I’m IP banned. doesn’t matter if it’s a new email, or device. I’ve tried many times and my accounts always get banned within 48 hrs. I haven’t tried getting a new modem yet, cause I don’t care that much about reddit.

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        The only good thing that came out of the API protest was watching AwkwardTheTurtle and iBleeedOrange get stabbed in the back and purged from the site by Spez.

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    I got banned from Reddit while I was on a work trip to the USA. Hadn’t posted in over a year at the time. I’m absolutely mystified as to why.

    They refer you to the content policy but they won’t tell you which post might violate it. I asked a few times what it was that caused the ban, but they either just referred to the content policy or once they said “Repeated violations”. I actually requested my user data so I could stick up my complete post history publicly and see if anyone else could figure it out. My username was / is sirdeadbeef on reddit.

    I haven’t put any work into displaying them nicely, this is the format you get them in if you request your data:

    https://db.osoal.org.nz/reddit/

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    My guy, at this point you’re only abusing yourself. Time to look at the writing on the wall, that site died months ago (or years ago in my opinion), you will only suffer using it.

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    Reddit has been aggressively banning people for many years. People used to cheer it on because it was mostly aimed at conservatives, but they’ve expanded and created what appears to be a first-strike policy with no appeal. Now it’s affecting everyone. I support consistent application of the rules, but their rules are petty, arbitrary, and broad. A famous example is how they ban people for racism, unless it’s racism towards white people. That was literally written into the site rules until recently.

    I think Reddit is a lost cause. They peaked long ago and now they’re coasting on their moat. As other services like Lemmy gain traction, Reddit will continue to decline, and they will continue to aggressively monetise the remaining users. The only thing to lament is the information already stored on the site.

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      I got banned for racism against white people earlier this year, but I appealed it and they unbanned me. That’s because I explained I wasn’t attacking the people who are labelled as white, I was attacking the label of whiteness itself. Whiteness was invented by trans-atlantic slave traders in order to justify what they were doing and create solidarity between europeans in the new world as they oppressed nonwhite people and enjoyed the privileges of oppressing together. It’s perfectly reasonable to attack the idea of whiteness as a big load of baloney. Also, any person who feels attacked by attacks on whiteness obviously considers whiteness part of their identity, which is shitty because, again, whiteness is fake. Whiteness shouldn’t be part of anyone’s self-identity because it’s nonsense.

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        The fact that people think whiteness and blackness are real, and sometimes treat people differently based on those labels, makes them real. That’s how concepts and words work.

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          Er, I get where you’re coming from, but white and black people are physiologically different.

          Not in intelligence or any of the other bullshit racists spout, of course. But there are differences in the way people’s bodies handle things like medication and disease which usually correlates with skin color.

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        I’d be okay with your rationalisation if you followed similar logic for “blackness.” Do you? Is it okay for me to attack blackness, and call it dirty and bad?

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          I would follow a similar logic for blackness if blackness had been created by black slavers who were using it to define themselves as better than everyone else and to justify slavery of nonblack people. However, that isn’t what happened. Black people didn’t choose to be black. They were kidnapped onto boats and told they were black. They were isolated from their native cultures and shoved into plantations with strangers from halfway across Africa who had no language, culture, or religion in common. They sure as shit didn’t want to be black, they wanted to go back to the way things were before. But blackness is the only thing their children grew up knowing.

          Is blackness fake? Yes. Is identifying as black a declaration of supremacy? No.

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            This is all utter nonsense though.

            The reality is for some reason people they are considered “white” and some people are considered “black”.

            It’s because of the colour of their skin if you skin didn’t notice.

            Why are people like you just falling over yourselves to invent more facile nonsense?

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              It’s not because of the colour of their skin. Black people don’t literally have black skin, white people don’t literally have white skin, Indians and Latines aren’t black, and Asians aren’t white. If you look at the average black person and see black skin, literally black skin, then your perceptions have been distorted by racism.

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            I’m starting to think your ban was justified. you’re absolutely obsessed with race.

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            Since you’ve admitted you accept discrimination on the basis of race, that makes you, quite literally, a racist. I’m sure you think your racism is justified and righteous and good, but all racists think that. You’re not special. You’re just racist.

            Your recount of history is wild. There were absolutely black slaves, but did you know that there have been millions of white slaves too? Slave markets flourished on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, in what is modern-day Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and western Libya, between the 15th and middle of the 19th century. The North African slave markets traded in European slaves which were acquired by Barbary pirates in slave raids on ships and by raids on coastal towns from Italy to Spain, Portugal, France, England, the Netherlands, and as far afield as the Turkish Abductions in Iceland. Men, women, and children were captured to such a devastating extent that vast numbers of sea coast towns were abandoned. According to Robert Davis, between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves in North Africa and Ottoman Empire between the 15th and 19th centuries.

            My own Irish ancestors were also the victims of genocide in the Potato Famine. No one has a hereditary claim on suffering. If you go far enough back in anyone’s past you’ll find cruelty and subjugation, no matter their skin colour. That you’d try to make it a competition to justify your racism is, I think, quite awful.

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    Is this new? I had a similar experience where I was banned and had to go hunting to try and find what it might have been. I really had no idea; I still don’t.

    One sub that banned me, for what I felt was a completely unjust reason, told me the process for lifting it was to write what would have been a 10 page letter/research paper going into why I was wrong and they were right. I wasn’t going to spend hours of my life bending a knee to power hungry mods who were asking me to lie to them to inflate their own egos, so I moved on with my life. I replied to a joke comment with another on-topic joke in a sub that allowed for jokes… I can’t and won’t say I was wrong about that.

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    I got one the other day for “promoting hate” because somebody else started a fight and didn’t like the fact that I called them out and insulted them back in the process.

    The message I got contained a link which pointed to a comment that said: “Deleted by Reddit”.

    It was a pretty new comment so I knew what it was about, but had it been some old comment they reported instead I wouldn’t have been able to successfully appeal it.

    Possibly even worse is the fact that the comment remained deleted even after the ban was appealed.

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    I have been banned pre-emptively from subreddits for making comments in other subreddits. The the sad part was my involvement in those toxic community’s was to get them to see the other side in a reasonable way. If anyone had actually read the comment there would not have been a ban. I even appealed the ban and they told me I shouldn’t even be there and it doesn’t matter. Talk about being close minded and toxic!

    (It was left wing subreddits banning me for arguing with right wingers in their own spaces, but I did in a soft way that didn’t get me outright banned - it showed me that the left wing extreme groups are just as bad as the right - extremism needs to end full stop)

    The fact that behavior was allowed on reddit should have been a red flag a long time ago.

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      I had similar experiences, and couldn’t understand why they would discourage dialog and discussion around various issues. The thing is, they don’t actually want dialog, they want to stamp out opposition to their views as though it never existed.

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      Got banned from r/offmychest for “participating” in incel subs.

      The thing is I was trolling in those subs. I should have been banned from them, not r/offmychest.

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        I got banned from there too because I used to go on /r/4chan back in 2011. I was an edgy teenager back then.

        They apparently fetched every comment that had ever been made to that subreddit and banned everyone. It happened in like 2015-2016, long after I stopped going on any subreddit like that.

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        It’s something of a reddit truism that nearly all the subs that ban you for posting elsewhere are either lefty subs or subs that are run by mods who also mod lefty subs.

        Most right wing, incel, etc, etc anyone else you’re likely to challenge subs actually require you to break their rules, and most of the time unless you’re outright obnoxious about it will let downvotes and debate do the work. Except for r/conservative, who is fiercely defensive of their bubble.

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      The mods on justiceserved will ban anyone that posts/comments in a conservative subreddit despite the content of the comment.

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        Yeah, I got banned for posting in a Joe Rogan subreddit, and as OP was saying, I was calling out toxic viewpoints with a dissertation on how machio and toxic behavior can be destructive to friends and family. I was insta banned from the justiceserved within minutes. I laughed, shrugged and moved on