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What’s with Lemmy users doing free advertising for corporate social media like this? You’re already here, so you should know better, right?
I mean, yeah, I’m on Lemmy and lots of other sites in the Fediverse, but why would that make me “know better”? Is my account supposed to give me some profound insight that sets me apart from the plebs on other sites? What I begin to know unfortunately is that the Fediverse and Lemmy in particular would be much more popular if it wasn’t so full of self-absorbed comments like this. The sole point of this post was to share something I found interesting that day, but if the mere mention of services that aren’t Lemmy provokes these kinds of comments, then I fear Lemmy will never make it out of obscurity. JFC
No, having an account won’t give you insight, but what I’m getting at is that most of us are here to get away from the glaring flaws of corporate social media. Obviously I want as many people as possible to join the Fediverse, and I don’t see how advocating for or at the very least normalizing more the exact kind of corporate-controlled platforms that drove most of us here is going to help that.
Personally, when it comes to Lemmy’s user numbers, I’m more concerned about the condescending tone that keeps getting worse and worse on here than I am about people posting memes about the broader social media landscape. But we don’t have to agree on which of these is more or less helpful.
the fuck is bluesky?
Some sort of centralized alternative to Mastadon. Kinda silly tbh.
old twitter founder jack created another social platform just like how twitter was except it has a protocol very similar to activitypub (but not it so not compatible)
If I am not wrong decentrlization is a very old promise for that platform and not actually implemented in any way…
I think they posted recently they were looking to make it decentralized in early 2024
If they invent their own protocol it’s probably going to take another year or two before wee see a usable implementation tho, the core components of Bluesky are closed source, well and Threads should be a activity pub app too but I have my doubts if they will ever implement it tbh!
It’s for libs who want things to be marginally better temporarily rather than significantly better forever.
what do you mean by this
The assumption is Jack will make bluesky just as bad as Twitter was before elon. But then jack and liberals didn’t see anything wrong with that twitter. So yeah, marginally better.
Having an invite only service seems like a risky move. If you make the sign up process too difficult people will give up and never return.
At this stage that’s kind of the point. It’s an intentional demand-curbing measure. The number of people trying to switch to BlueSky outstrips hosting infrastructure. They’re scaling up slowly and carefully.
I presume once it’s out of open beta and they have the infra they need to launch properly, it will stop being invite ony.
Understandable, but at that point it may be too late as people will have cemented themselves with some of the competition such as Mastodon or wherever it may be. At least for me I am very unlikely to use BlueSky at this point or in the future because I was unable to go to the site when I had heard of it and sign up.
I think those of us that treat social media services this way are a minority in the grand picture. If BlueSky continues to be effective, network effect will pull in a steady stream of users, including ones that may have balked before.
It is poising itself to be a 1:1 drop-in replacement for Twitter. Federated services like Mastodon aren’t that (and aren’t trying to be).
I wholly believe that the majority of Twitter users have no interest in federated platforms as alternatives. By comparison, platforms like Mastodon feel vaguely like Twitter but more fractured and isolated. Everyone was on Twitter. Comparatively no one is on Mastodon. Discovery is awful and micromanaging instances and subscriptions is tedious busywork. “Why can’t it just be all in one convenient place, like on Twitter? This is so stupid and complicated,” I expect most would complain.
Federated platforms are loved by us because we value the fine control and we like putting in effort to curate our feeds. The complexity is the appeal. But I think it’s negative appeal to the type of person who has gotten accustomed to an algorithm doing all of that for them, and I think that’s most people. You can use federated platforms out of the box and they’ll “just work” without all the tinkering, but it will be very bland and vapid. It only becomes great when you put in work to make it great for yourself.
The thing BlueSky seems to be promising is that big, monolithic platform that Twitter was and most people want. And I think they’re the only notable player in that game, so they’ll completely corner that market. As long as they don’t trip over any footguns (and I don’t believe making the beta invite-only is one of them), I believe they’re going to succeed greatly.
But the sign up codes are the only reason people care about it. Yes, people are just THAT shallow.
It’s dead lets move on to intresting things
Like the joke of old:
Internet Explorer: the best browser for downloading other browsers
Hmu if anyone has a code ^^ EDIT: got a code, thank you
I’ve been looking for a code too. Signed up for the waitlist months ago and nothing. Anyone got a code?
Would be very grateful!
Yo same! Best of luck
Message sent
Got any more? Been trying to get one
Message sent, all out of invites now.
i would appreciate one too if available again.
Message sent
got any more codes?
Sent
Sorry, all out. Only had 3.
Yo need one as well
I’d love one too if possible, thanks!
I would appreciate it if I could get one as well
Competition is great and all, but Mastodon already exists.
Yeah honestly, let’s have competition between Mastodon servers instead. My current favorite is dice.camp for tabletop fans.
I find it funny how the only problem people see with Twitter is that the wrong oligarch owns it. The real issue is with reliance on privately owned social spaces. Corporations shouldn’t be in charge of how people communicate with each other.
I tried Mastodon, but had dead feeds and the discovery was really bad. All I want is gay people but I’d get USAian politicians and other irrelevant shit. I got BlueSky and it’s all very relevant. Many dead accounts, true. Still seeking out ppl to follow.
Why not just use mastodon? Why is this better in any way? Twitter was already going to shit before Elon accelerated it.
At least in my own bubble, many did switch to Mastodon. Those that didn’t are looking at other options, because the whole federation idea and things like home instances didn’t appeal to them or were simply too complicated (they want a service that at least hides its decentralized nature).
I don’t get why people dislike federation
use mastadon or nostr, they are actually decentralized. Bluesky is just twitter 2.0 with the same broken incentives and the same broken business model.
There’s an earlier version of this Fediverse Tree diagram where everything is more carefully on branches and the sky is… Blue. Bluesky. Bluesky is very much a response to the Fediverse. As a replacement. As a more popular and more important service.
Let’s just put our social media in the hands of the exact same guy who fucked everyone over last time. Because that makes perfect sense.
I always find it a weird take when people treat Twitter before Musk like it was some sort of wonderful place that people enjoyed.
Let’s give the Twitter guy another chance, I mean we all loved his platform sooo much before Musk, right? …
Yeah, that’s what bothers me. Feels like people romanticize pre-Musk Twitter, when in reality, its always just been complete garbage. Musk’s Twitter is certainly worse in some ways, though that isn’t saying a lot.
Overall, Twitter just sucks. Use other platforms where possible.
Yea, I have my issues with Lemmy too ever since the Israel/Palestina conflict got violent again so my by far favorite and most used is Mastodon, to me that feels like a supirior Microblogging site that actually dose things different and doesn’t just try to reimplement Twitter!
