The IDF Spokesman Twitter account for Arabic has published guidance for Gazans to evacuate along two main roads between 10am and 4pm today (October 14th).
Translation courtesy of @hassanmckusick:
#Urgent Important statement for residents of Gaza City In recent days, we have appealed to you to leave Gaza City to the south of Wadi Gaza in order to preserve your safety. I would like to inform you that the IDF will allow movement on the indicated streets without any harm between the hours of 10:00 - 16:00. For your safety, take advantage of the short time to move towards the south - from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. If you care about yourself and your loved ones, go south as instructed. Rest assured that Hamas leaders have taken care of themselves and are taking cover from strikes in the region. Residents of Al-Shati, Al-Rimal and West Al-Zaytoun will also be allowed to move on Daldul and Al-Sanaa Streets towards my street By At Saladin and the sea
Jerboa doesn’t show the link and the picture together: https://twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1713065991511388610
Translation:
The safe way to move civilians south
Street name 1
Street name 2
Yellow line: Safe route
Dotted lines: Gaza Border
Source: Google translate app
Also those paths are roughly 10 miles long for anyone unfamiliar with the region or to lazy to check Google maps.
And Israel has already bombed a convoy following that exact route. There’s no reason for Palestinians to trust this, if they could even get on the internet to begin with.
Can you share a link about that?
That’s an ominously round shapefile they used to mark the evacuation boundary…
They can’t. They wouldn’t! Would they?
They wont. But if they did, it would be an interesting political move. It would demonstrate unambiguously that:
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they have nukes (everybody sorta knows, but its never been confirmed)
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they are willing to use them in anger against their enemies (only the second country to use them against enemies)
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they are willing to engage in a first strike (many countries are comitted to not being the first to send the spicy boi)
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they are willing to use them against a non-existential threat (many countries intend only to use them only when faced with, or after experiencing annihilation)
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they are willing to use them on their own doorstep, to the peril of hostages, enemy civilians, and their own citizens/fisheries/farmland in the region
This would be such a radical nuclear doctrine that it would genuinely give all arab countries, and Iran, pause to consider their own safety.
Just to make sure I understand your argument, you think Israel is going to nuke Gaza? In that case, I have a very lucrative bridge to sell you.
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Here’s approximately how long it would take to traverse from inside the city to outside the circle + eventually extra traffic: https://i.imgur.com/aZxkGlt.png
Except you have a million people trying to do the same, that’s extra extra extra taffic
Because everyone has a car and driving through rubble is no problem. Especially with a million people who do not have electricity, fuel or food.
When Israel were under attack, the entire country joined together and helped people evacuate from their destroyed homes. Also the military and security forces. Not saying it’s easy, but it certainly is doable if Gaza was a functioning society. Sadly, it’s not.
I take no position, if this is good or bad. I have my opinion but I don’t want any arguments with either side, so I just posted objective facts.
I was just curious on the distance and figured other people would also want to know.
It is also an objective fact that only about 1/3 of Palestinian households own a car so for the average able bodied Palestinian it will be a ~4.5 hour walk assuming no traffic
And then throw in the fact that they’re displacing over a million people. There will be traffic like never before.
It’s not my fault if someone didn’t do their own research when making up their minds from my image.
I posted one fact, I don’t have to post every single fact in the world.
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I posted what I posted before they started to attack the evacuating civilians or at least before I knew about it.
I later posted a link to an article about the bombings. What’s up with Lemmy users not reading the thread before commenting?
I mainly used Google maps to know the distance, and the time helps with visualisation of the length.
If you think that the estimate was exactly correct, you are lost.
And if you look at any footage of the evacuation you would see that traveling by car is possible.
Maybe it’s uncommon or it’s slower than anticipated, but don’t pretend it’s impossible, because it clearly is.
That may be but don’t argue with me about it.
I just posted an image from Google.
Imagine hauling your grandma and toddlers across 24km of crowded street with occasional rubbles, and you need to cross them within 6 hours or risk a fiery death. Totally doable! /s
terrible time to assume they are using cars
Right? How can they afford a car if they can’t even afford food and are unemployed.
Thanks for sharing. I wonder what the walking estimate is and driving with traffic.
The walking estimate is around 5 hours
If you’re a healthy adult and not bringing all your remaining possessions, your elderly parents and your children.
Yes obviously, that goes without saying.
It’s a walking estimate and those obviously assume that you walk at an average constant pace for 5 hours without slowing down (or up) or stopping.
The estimate isn’t for estimating how long it will take them. It’s for getting an idea on how far it is. Then you can estimate time on your own, with variables such as children, bringing your stuff, etc.
It’s a lot easier to visualize the distance if you have an estimate of what it would take you, compared to a fancy map with no scale or anything.
Thank you! I can’t imagine being in that situation.
Fuck the Israelis state of apartheid for doing this. Displacing an entire population of people.
Fuck the terrorist organization Hamas, slaughtering innocent people in their homes. Also fuck the terrorist organization Hamas for not lifting a single finger to care for their population who elected them in democratic elections. Fuck them for not only not defending them - but actively put them in danger, starting a conflict with Israel then hiding in civillian homes and preventing those citizens from fleeing a war zone.
Of course they extend the evacuation order. They know it isn’t feasible for a million ppl to evacuate in 24 hours. They’re not savages like Hamas, and fear for innocent loss of life. They do give unreasonable orders so people will act quickly, because boy oh boy are they about to attack.
Idf needs to get the fuck out of Palestine before the rest of the world figures out that we collectively fucked up in 1948 and rectifies the situation.
You know. With the same methods they use today.
