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      Main problem is finding communities.

      Before if I had a problem with program XYZ, I would just search for “Reddit XYZ” and I would find and post on that subreddit.

      But now that I deleted my reddit account, it’s not as easy, you can’t search for “Lemmy XYZ” and get the same immediate clear result.

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          Maybe it’s just the communities that I’ve subscribed to. Other than memes, the next most active community is the Linux one. The rest all seem dead.

          It’s possible that Kbin still has federation issues and I’m simply not seeing all of the content from the communities on Lemmy instances.

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        There’s plenty of content. It’s just overshadowed by the deluge of memes. If you block most (or all) of the meme communities, you’ll still have a good feed. Better even, imo.

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    Every time I think it can’t possibly get any dumber … reddit proves me wrong. I have been a redditor for nearly ten years before I jumped ship and switched to Lemmy, and during that almost-decade I have used reddit’s own search function for all of fifteen minutes before giving up and using google with the keyword “reddit + whatever I wanted to find” instead. It simply sucks.

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    spez walking his baby nuts around the block trying to flex on Google and Microsoft. Let’s see how that goes for him.

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      It’s always amusing to me when people believe that just because they have a lot of money, they’re part of The Club, and they can act with impunity. Perhaps I’m wrong, but spez seems like one of those dumbasses who thinks they’re part of The Club, but isn’t.

      Maybe, after reddit’s recent shenanigans, the SEC will teach him that.

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    Reddit is a study in inertia. It steadily declines in quality and the users just continue to hang around and eat their shit. Reddit will be around for a long time, and stubbornly get worse every quarter. It’s pathetic.

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        A lot of times if you want(ed) a relevant answer to something you throw that site:reddit bit in there.

        Wild they’d block Google, it’s like they’re actively trying to hurt themselves. There’s no way they have a decent search algo built after almost two decades of having a really shitty one.

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    So, to stop ai crawlers, they will block Google and Bing crawlers?

    To cut off your nose to spite your face comes to mind

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        I’m pretty sure reddit’s search is basically fake, a stopgap “todo” placeholder that never got done. It always seemed like they wanted us to forget that Reddit is even supposed to be searchable, but now we know that search really is against their mission somehow. Even from the perspective of greed it never made sense to me.

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        Reddit’s search was broken when I joined in 2009 and it never improved. The only thing that made Reddit searchable was Google.

        Reddit somehow missed that the value of the was in the comments, not the post. Post titles are easily searchable but searching the comments using Reddit’s own search is still difficult. It mystifies me how badly the people running Reddit misunderstand the most basic things about it.

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      I doubt reddit makes much revenue from traffic generated by search queries. I suspect People endlessly scrolling their feed are more likely to click ads

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      sad and amazing how true this is.

      to find anything worthwhile in Google search you often needed to add site:reddit.com

      to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google

      well, glad I don’t go to those websites anymore…

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        to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google

        Huh? I just used reddits own search bar. Worked just fine for me.

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          I’ve found that Reddit’s search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it’s mostly useless.

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          oh man this is hilarious.

          you’re kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed?

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          Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google “r/whateversub” followed by whatever it was I was trying to find.

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        People say this all the time, but I search prolifically and have literally never had to do this to get a relevant result top 4.

        What are you guys doing, using full sentences with puffery like you’re talking to the Enterprise or something?

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          100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I’ve never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically.

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    Honestly after I noticed the declining users on Lemmy I started using reddit again, it just has more activity on a lot of niche communities I’m interested in.

    However I still use Lemmy almost daily since I like the content and comments here more, and it’s the kind of platform I enjoy, just like the Reddit of old.

    Spez is a fucking idiot.

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      Reddit is a better platform due to the number of users it has. No amount of optimization can make Lemmy better than reddit if there’s no enough users to create content and participate in the discussion.

      I’m still not going back though. It’s not essential for me. I already spend way too much time online so if there’s one less platform to mindlessly scroll thru then that’s only a good thing. I don’t really experience FOMO because I don’t know what I’m missing out on.

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          Would have been cool of there was a legal way to migrate some of the core content created by users on Reddit to Lemmy. I’m not even talking about media like images and video. Just conversations and opinion posts, guides, help and advice.

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    This, for me, is a good example of why the assessments that I’ve seen lately about how much Lemmy/Kbin may or may not have caught on, and the assessments about how Reddit may or may not have been impacted by the migration, are way, way too early and kind of nonsensical to make right now.

    It is important to understand that Reddit is set on becoming a public company, and for a public company, not taking any avenue that could provide additional revenue is essentially only one step below setting that money on fire. If there’s a chance that something will make the company more efficient, you are kinda obligated to do it. This will constantly (and increasingly) lead to policies like this, which sacrifice user convenience or add additional friction to the experience, because an experience that is open, accessible, non-intrusive and non-restrictive inherently implies lost opportunities of revenue at each one of those unrestricted points (which is a weird paradox of digital capitalism, in which to make your product more profitable it has to become worse, which flies in the face of the traditional capitalist theory that you make the most money by making the best product, but that’s another story and I don’t wanna get sidetracked).

    Anyway what I wanna get at, is that each person has their own points of friction (mobile becoming app-only, old reddit dissappearing, who knows) past which they would find the idea of transferring platform less intrusive than the experience they would get by staying on Reddit. And the fact that cutting Google off is even in the realms of discussion shows that Reddit is very willing to reach those points and beyond. If these changes pile up and the friction created in the experience by them becomes significantly greater than the idea of transferring platforms, then it’s not outside the realm of possibility that Reddit will bleed out slowly by taking actions like this. Time will tell.

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    As much as I hate Reddit, adding it to the end of nearly every google search is the only way you can get decent answers anymore, at least without having to scroll through several ad-riddled junk sites

    This is gonna hurt both

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        It’s a good time to do it, get really high revenue and IPO before it can die out

        But I don’t see how it hurts the company at all, even in this thread you find people saying “yeah but it’s popular “

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    They have already made their content almost unusable in search results. I’ve started adding Reddit to my exclusions when searching.