ANKARA, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands and people.
Any label applied to Hamas can equally be applied to the IDF. One just has better budget so it can do it’s child murdering from miles away.
Fuck them both, frankly.
The IDF does not routinely storm Palestinian villages and shoot every man, woman, and child they see, and you know that.
Could they do a lot more to protect civilians during military operations, and should the be criticized for that? Absolutely. But if Hamas had the capabilities that the IDF has, Tel Aviv would be crater. There is a very meaningful difference between the groups and equating them is sheer intellectual laziness.
If Hamas had the same capabilities, there would likely be less violence because Israel would not be able to oppress, occupy, or encroach on Palestinian life. The one with more power doesn’t need to use all of their strength, whereas the one struggling under the boot of the other will fight with all of their strength and use whatever is available to them
If Hamas had the same capabilities, there would likely be less violence because Israel would not be able to oppress, occupy, or encroach on Palestinian life
With all respect, this take is so detached from reality that I am literally incapable of responding to it.
there would likely be less violence
Once the Nazi like mass killings stopped, the violence would end.
“Precision JDAM strike on apartment complex housing Hamas militants” and “Israelis massacred in their homes in brutal reign of terror” has the exact same result though: Dead innocent civilians. Women, children, babies, pensioners (although granted most people don’t live that long in Gaza).
Genocide might not be the aim of Israel (I’m sure they’d settle for “everyone in Gaza and the West Bank moving far away”), but when you’re pulling the lifeless body of your 6 year old niece from the ruins of their home, it’s sure going to feel that way.
The only hope I have that there can be peace was yesterday, when an elderly woman was released by Hamas, and as she was lead away, she turned and took the hand of her captor. Just for a second, there was genuine kindness and humanity. That’s the level of nuance needed for cooler voices to prevail over guns and bombs. I’m not sure many have it. I suspect this will cool down to the normal background level of death, and we’ll be here again in 5-10 years when it spikes again.
Freedom fighters don’t take civilian hostages, gun down unarmed civilians & murder children.
Incoming whataboutism from a moron in 3…2…
Those children were oppressing them.
I mean, even if for the sake of argument that is their purpose (admittedly, I don’t know enough about Hamas to know if freeing Palestinians is actually their goal or if they’re just using Palestinian anger to get recruits for some other goal), freedom fighters and terrorists are not mutually exclusive. Using the tactic of intentionally causing terror, especially among civilians, to try to force one’s political objectives is terrorism and makes the user a terrorist, regardless of what they might be fighting for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_African_National_Congress#Political_violence
Terrorist is one side of the coin.
I was just going to post something similar,
“Mandela generated controversy throughout his career as an activist and politician, having detractors on both the right and the radical left. During the 1980s, Mandela was widely labelled a terrorist by prominent political figures in the Western world for his embrace of political violence. According to Thatcher, for instance, the ANC was “a typical terrorist organisation”. The US government’s State and Defense departments officially designated the ANC as a terrorist organisation, resulting in Mandela remaining on their terrorism watch-list until 2008.”
