We just don’t smell the rot yet. It’s not about the actual body (website) and the name. It is about the spirit, the personality. And that has been compromised and killed off because of factors one could call enshittification or whatever. Digg and Tumblr still exist, at least in name, but not in spirit. I think Reddit has past that threshold. It will be a slow death and I am not sure the fediverse will fill the void it leaves behind. But I do think and believe communities will never sustain on venture capital.
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Reddit is farked.
fark.com is another site that still exists.
It’s kinda weird going back there, same in jokes that I remember from before but it’s like 15 years later. Reddit, on the other hand, did change a lot over the years, for better and worse. Though I do wonder how much of that was natural and how much was manipulation from political groups and/or propaganda teams from various countries from all sides of all divides.
We’ll see on their first billing to third-party app developers next month
I never heard of spez until this debacle…now that I have a face to go with all the scummy corporate behavior, I’m absolutely out of there…I see his face every time I go there now and it skeeves me out :P
I shared this exact same thing. No idea about any of it until I did. I thought the admins were decent spirited until I heard the phone call audio shared by Apollo’s creator.
Then Spez tripled down saying this too shall pass. Once that was made public, I started purging everything I could.
I had 5 accounts. I have 1 now. Just in case I need to log in again.
The website feels dead already. Like, the comments are more empty, there are less memes in tech-heavy subreddits, etc. The nerds have left.
Meanwhile, here in the Fediverse I’ve been seeing a lot of impressively creative memes. I don’t know if they’re originating here, or if they’re copy-pasted from elsewhere, but I’m comfortable here where memes are concerned.
Everyone keeps saying Tumblr is dead when it’s the best it’s ever been for a couple years now 😭
‘the best’ is subjective. Yes, tumblr still exists and perhaps has a second life. But the spirit of the old tumblr is gone. Same applies to Reddit. It’s not the name or the site that died but its personality. Twitter is a good example. It died a few years ago, slowly. It is still around but what made twitter twitter is no more. It changed, it has another atmosphere and other types of users. It is still called twitter but that is like a son who has the same name as his father. Two different persons.
It started as a pedestal for Free speech by one of the founders. But spez just nuked him off the website after his death. Reddit is nothing it once was. It’s a corporate, just like every other bs app.
I definitely feel like the user base responsible for making OC on reddit are the type that bailed on reddit during the shutdown. With a huge amount of their content creators for the platform gone, it’s gonna be even more recycled garbage.
And the users left behind, particularly those that whined about the mods shutting stuff down, are never creators. They’re just consumers, useless eaters. You can tell because their umbrage wasn’t directed at the reddit administration, but was directed at the mods, who dared to interrupt their feeding sessions.
And the users left behind, particularly those that whined about the mods shutting stuff down, are never creators. They’re just consumers, useless eaters. You can tell because their umbrage wasn’t directed at the reddit administration, but was directed at the mods, who dared to interrupt their feeding sessions.
Idk if I became biased after this whole shitstorm, but looks like there are more low effort reposts than before and even less effort in the comments.
Also, idk if it’s because I have a lot of subs blocked, but subs like ‘am I ugly’ gets so many low hanging fruits, to the point that it looks like bots posting.It probably is all bot traffic.
Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of the posts there are just training another AI model. Skim social media for random people’s profile pictures, post them up, aggregate the responses, and then in probably 5-10 years you have a company offering an AI-driven product that can offer advice on how to improve your look based on all that data.
That’s some dystopian stuff and sadly not far from a possible reality
I’m just waiting to see if any of the big AI companies they claim are going to pay actually do. I’m willing to bet money that API usage levels dropped off a cliff as soon as the new pricing took effect, and that there will be no big payouts from Microsoft etc
You know… I don’t understand why AI would need access to an API. Can’t they just crawl the web? HTML5 was designed with AI in mind iirc. But I’m no expert so I’ll probably talk bs here.
They can get all the data they want without the API, and I think they will from here on out. But if a site happens to provide data in a convenient API format for free, they might use it. Or they may not, I don’t know what evidence Reddit used to decide that the LLMs training on Reddit data was doing it via the API. It’s possible that all Reddit ever intended to do was kill third party apps (and it seems like they’re still settling for killing most, and maiming the stragglers).
I think it’s only a matter of time before Reddit sets up rate limits and blocks unregistered views like Twitter in another misguided attempt to stop AI from pulling in massive amounts of user data.
Problem is that there’s nothing stopping an AI company from just creating thousands of dummy accounts to get as much data as they need before each hits the daily rate limit anyways.
Short of locking all data away that is older than a specific time, it’s a losing battle no matter how you look at it. And going that far is sure to doom the service anyways.
I think Reddit would like to keep people clicking through from Google searches, which, apparently, Twitter doesn’t, but I suppose they might. And yeah, I think bots are basically inevitable, one way or another.
On the other hand, with increasing amounts of bot-generated content on Reddit, it might not be long before no one wants to train LLMs on Reddit anymore, lol.
The big AI companies will almost certainly not pay the usage fees as they are for everyone else. What this might accomplish (and might be the goal) is to bring them to the negotiation table for special deals, lump sum payments etc.
Reddit looking like Tik Tok, which is looking more like Facebook, which wants to look like Instagram… and what’s that over there? Oh look, it’s Twitter, spooning glue with its’ hand and putting it in its’ mouth.
Wow. Never seen anyone use the wrong “its” quite that wrong
Feeling more like Reddit by the moment 🤣
I like it, tbh. “Malicious plural” is a grammatical construction you don’t see every day.
I could smell the rot as soon as I took a gander at their official app. The spirit of the site is gone from the inside out.
Frankly, it’s been rotting for years and years. Us users were simply too invested in the rotting corpse to give up on it and kept pumping it with morphine and penicillin.
Great way to put it. Reminds me of 40k lore. Does that make Steve Huffman the God-Emperor?
No, it makes his Tzeentch. Cause he swears he has a plan but all you see is failure.
Beginning of the end. I hope the IPO fails or is cancelled. I uninstalled all my reddit apps, but last I looked, my feed was already subpar compared to the fediverse.
Fuck Steve Huffman.
Really? Mine is full of beans. Kinda annoying how easily a meme can take over the whole feed.
I haven’t seen any beans, just a handful of people complaining about them. Perhaps unsubscribe from the meme communities for a bit if it’s a problem?
I’ve been scrolling through the /all feed. There do seem to be quite a few bean related memes in there.
It disagreeing. I just looked at the top 10 posts over the last 12 hours. 2 were a reference to beans. I downvoted, hid the posts, and moved on. This comment is the most time I’ve spent on it. The above poster seems to be overly concerned.
Maybe the posts that show up in /all differ from person to person? I don’t know. They don’t bother me too much, but depending on the day/time of day, I’ve seen a number of them come up back to back. I do enjoy a good meme so I happy to see that community thriving here.
Maybe the posts that show up in /all differ from person to person?
They do, it depends which instance your account is on
Omae wa mou shindeiru.
nANI!?
It “died” a couple years ago when it became closed-source.
I remember when their canary went away and everyone said it was the end of reddit lol.
This. We’re just now noticing the
spezflies on the corpse is all.meaning it’s just as alive as it’s always been. traffic has hardly stopped as of now.
