I imagine certain features like Google Maps’ different busyness indicators might be missing because otherwise that would require telemetry?
I use Organic Maps on my degoogled pixel. Does not have quite as much data as google maps, but works really well for navigation and uses openstreetmaps’ data.
I’m curious, what are some steps I can take to degoogle my phone? Obviously using non Google apps when possible (browser, email client, etc…)
What worked for you?
there is grapheneos for pixel and some other devices
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
Even lineage OS isn’t available for my motorola g73, so I just removed all google apps, including google play services, via adb
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
Solid! Thank you
You will basically need to start fresh with a custom rom as google services are deeply ingrained into the standard operating system. Its almost impossible/not worth it even to to to get rid of those once they are installed. You could check first, which custom roms are available for your phone. Graphene, divestos and calyxos are probably the most private roms, but only available on a few models. Lineageos is widely available but will need extra steps to degoogle.
If a custom rom seems like too much hasle your can improve your privacy most easily by choosing a tracker and dns blocking doh/dns sever on android. It only takes minutes.
Android settings -> search for private dns -> chose private dns provider hostname -> doh.mullvad.net
More examples for providers here: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#dns
I use GrapheneOS without Google play services. All apps I use are either from fdroid or the aurora store. You could also install lineageOS or eOS, Graphene only runs on Pixels.
I use OsmAnd~ it’s very nice ,and open source . Oh and if you use the F-droid version you got the pro feature .
OsmAnd is awesome, I use it especially for cycling. It has an awesome cycling/hiking route planner, and even the smallest forest paths are on the map!
Oh yes for bike it’s amazing . I even find 1 accesses to a highway store wich normaly are not alowed .
The FOSS ones suck in comparison honestly. There’s really just osmAnd that has a really ancient UI. As for other OSM(OpenStreetMaps), I find MAPS.ME to be the best, but it’s closed source with some crypto scam crap built in that you can’t disable.
I don’t really like OSM based maps because they miss tons of places where I’m at, when I specifically need building numbers and locations. Also the search on both apps is god awful and straight broken.
Google Maps is definitely miles ahead of the competition here. The other features like seeing how busy businesses are, reviews/images, menu and phone number/website. These are also icing on top of the cake that make it essential to have which none of the competition have, let alone any FOSS ones.
Honestly, OsmAnd doesn’t have that bad of an ui these days. I’m perfectly happy with it, most of the time. Definitely prefer it to Google Maps while cycling.
It really depends on where in the world. I’m in the Caribbean and Google maps is terrible here.
Even on the main road network there is places where a bridge is seen as an intersection on Google maps.
Open street maps is much better here.
The app I’m using for open street map is called Organic Maps.
Yeah when traveling I’m always supplementing my Google maps with OsmAnd just because gmaps is missing so much data.
Organic Maps is a great open source replacement for MAPS.ME and osmAND, but also with the same disadvantage of not having good public transport options and needing to download offline maps beforehand. Magic Earth, while not FOSS, at least does show public transport times (in my country at least).
Address based search works, but the data is largely lacking.
You can help by adding building numbers from within Organ Maps (tap a building and, then “edit place”).
The underlying OSM dataset supports building number interpolation, so even a few accurate entries could be very helpful.
For hiking and walking around the city open street map is great. I personally use mapy.cz - they work great and at least in central Europe - more accurate than google.
All the alternatives have poor search functions e.g. fuzzy search. After trying them all I use magic earth but will often find I have to get addresses out of google maps then put them into ME
My job requires a lot of pulling up maps. I’m sad to say I haven’t found a good Google replacement. Do I like all the ones listed? Yes. Can they get the job done the way I need it? No.
For hiking and walking around the city open street map is great. I personally use mapy.cz - they work great and at least in central Europe - more accurate than google.
Try OrganicMaps (https://organicmaps.app) on Android. It’s awesome!
Oh wow, this is great! Thanks.
Only thing I consistently don’t see well done are parks and other green spaces, where the boundaries are ill defined or missing. Other than that, also my mainstay
Try adjusting them on openstreetmap.org/edit, takes a few minutes at most
Will try, thanks
This is my favorite front end for openstreetmaps. The only problem is I live in NJ and most addresses are missing. I usually just get coordinates from Google maps and add them manually.
Can you use this with Android Auto?
it’s nice, but its navigation/route finding can be pretty atrocious
2nded! I really like it as a google alternative for maps and nav.
FOSS turn-by-turn is unfortunately not great. I like the proprietary app HERE, because it works well for turn-by-turn, is based in Europe and has a privacy policy that fits on one page
Which is the old and excellent nokia maps built in navteq GPS tech they bought like 15 years ago. I used it on and off for a while but started using openstreetmap based services eventually.
Magic Earth (not FOSS), such an underrated app
Not FOSS but MagicEarth works pretty well and they are privacy friendly.
Not FOSS but MagicEarth works pretty well and they are privacy friendly.
@AlmightySnoo with Traffic Data you can use #MagicEarth. It use #OpenStreetMap Data.
My go to is mapy.cz You can download regional maps for offline use, it is intuitive to use, good for seeking out cycling routes and builds on openstreetmap data.
None. Tried a few, none of them come close to what Google Maps offer.
Unfortunately, that’s the only truth. Especially if you live outside the US.
Huh? OpenStreetMap is pretty bad in the US compared to Europe, where it’s far more detailed than Google Maps will ever be
Open maps will improve greatly in the near future. The Overture Maps Foundation is working on an open mapping dataset to rival Google.
Almost all alternatives use OpenStreetMaps. I prefer Magic Earth but all of them are similar enough
The main issue is OSM. They lack many addresses (varies A LOT among different countries, some are fine) and POIs. Please consider contributing yourself, because it depends only on volunteers!
It is SUPER easy. Just download StreetComplete on Android to add multiple different info in a very easy way (or just house numbers which are the most important info) and EveryDoor for POI editing/deletion/addition in just a few clicks. And don’t worry if you don’t input something because you aren’t sure as long as what you enter is correct
Some basic information, including building numbers, can also be edited from within Organic Maps.
interestingly in my region in germany osm is more reliable in regards of house numbers then google is
in some areas osm is insanely detailed, with trash cans, flower pots, and all kind of stuff. Nerds fucking rock.
