• joao@aussie.zone
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    If he means like blaming farmers, who intentionally prevented the publication of research about how eating too much of the food they were producing would most likely kill people by causing diabetes, then yes, he has a point.

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      It turns out that hiding the research was unnecessary. Now everyone has known about that research for decades but they buy even more oil than they did before.

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        I know, it’s like people don’t even care enough to walk the extra mile down the road to the Solar Energy store to buy their solar gasoline and wind powered home heating fuel.

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        Not necessarily. There’s a lot of big moves happening now that would have been a lot more effective decades ago.

        They’ve spent so much time poisoning the discourse and bribing politicians between then and now. So we’re playing catch up and we’re doing it against a lot of interference from bought off politicians.

        Had they not been lobbying and bribing and hiding research and publishing phony studies since at least the 70s, things might be a lot different.

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        Well, COP28 was literally hosted by an Oil CEO…

        And with Regulatory capture, many oil execs are positioned to decide energy and environmental matters.

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    They have a point, especially when you consider farmers lobby for things like corn subsidies, which leads to high-fructose corn syrup being nearly free, and added to everything, which leads to obesity.

    Or, there’s the whole food pyramid thing. The agriculture industry (i.e. farmers) industry lobbies to have the food pyramid reflect their profitable products, telling people to eat 6-11 servings of bread, cereal, rice and pasta every day, and suggesting people limit the fruit and vegetables they eat. Nuts and beans were thrown into the same category as red meat. They then arranged for that food pyramid to be everywhere, even taught in schools, convincing kids that it was a scientifically proven way to eat healthy, when it was largely marketing material from the farmer lobby.

    Fundamentally, pollution / climate change is the result of people’s lifestyle choices. Oil workers wouldn’t extract the oil from the ground unless people were buying it and burning it. Similarly, people wouldn’t get fat unless they were eating, and when they’re eating the food was grown by farmers. But, take a step back and see the lobbying, the regulatory capture, the lack of choices people have, etc. and you see that both the oil industry and farmers can be blamed for a lot of obesity and climate change.