• Heresy_generator@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    The news media needs to stop using the word “reunify” to refer to the PRC’s threatened imperial conquest of an island they’ve never controlled.

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      Yep, this word is used intentionally by Xi and he knows he means “conquer the nation developed by the people that escaped his predecessors”.

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        The nation wasn’t developed by the people who escaped. That’s an ahistorical way of framing the issue

        Taiwan was developed by the overthrown proto-fascist military junta who just lost the civil war. After taking the island, they didn’t tell the people of Taiwan that the war had been over and they were no longer China until 1991. The first labor laws outlawing slavery were introduced to the people of Taiwan in 2006. The people of Taiwan still consider themselves China (it is afterall the name they go by, not Taiwan) and full Taiwanese independence is still a minority held belief on the actual island.

        Just to be clear, I am a supporter of their independence, but this is a very messy situation in which the political party who comrade the country is the same fascist party who lost the war in the first place and still maintains to the UN that they are the legitimate government of the mainland. Full separation is convenient for the West, but neither side actually wants that, they just don’t want to be ruled by either fascists or communists, and I think that is incredibly fair for all people actually involved to want.

  • S3verin@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    “Reunify”. Just like Putin tries to reunify Ukraine with Russland… Strange how one is called Invasion and the other Reunifying

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    bla bla… but everyone still buys shit from china… you use iphones, chrome and everything as long as it is convenient for you… and then do the butthurt cry here. hows that supposed to change anything?

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, voting with your dollar definitely will make the change, just buy something else and struggle a bit harder, that change is right around the corner /s

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    It’s wild how they’re still obsessed with Taiwan, despite CCP being recognized as China for many decades now. I wonder how much of this is elderly people who still consider the civil war unfinished and how much is strategic. It seems like invading would not be in China’s interest. Perhaps they want to do it before their demographic population collapse occurs.

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      It’s a Chinese thing. PRC and ROC (officially) both see “China” as including the “province” of Taiwan.

      Part of it is brainwashing on the PRC side - they are taught from elementary school that Taiwan is a part of China. Part of it is ROC stubborness. It’s even a political issue within Taiwan. While the younger generation generally sees Taiwan as an independent country, the KMT and the older generation refuses to let go of mainland China.

      Chinese culture also has the famous line that translates roughly to “after having been united for a while, it must split. After having been split for a while, it must unite” that refers to China in general. Taiwan, HK, and “China” have been split for a bit and the PRC wants to see it reunited.

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    China is hostage state that nurtures Stockholm Syndrome in it’s population (similar to DPRK and others). You can only “leave” if it’s deemed useful and safe for China (i.e. you have Stockholm Syndrome strongly enough). And those that leave are still under control, i.e. their (edited) behavior can be coerced by using carrot and stick methods on their family and loved ones.

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      Uhm, you can freely leave China? And unless you’re a secret FBI agent, your family is probably safe.

      I’ve heard those stories of “secret Chinese police in the Netherlands”, but they are based on words of like one man without decent confirmation

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    If trying to invade Taiwan weakens china like it did with Russia invading Ukraine then I’m all for it. Fuck china

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    “Re-unify” is dipshit-speak for invade, pillage and crush… for anyone wondering.

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      Horseshit. That status quo has always been a Taiwan free of CCP rule. The PRC has never controlled Taiwan and their stated goal is to make it part of their country by any means necessary; that’s disrupting that status quo. The US, on the other hand, supports the status quo of the ROC existing and the people of Taiwan being allowed to decide what they want for themselves.

      Even the most shameless CCP propagandist should realize that trying to convince people of the ridiculous lie that the country promising imperial conquest of land that’s never been theirs “wants to maintain the status quo” is foolish nonsense.

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          So, again, your original assertions are horseshit. The PRC is very explicitly trying to change the status quo of Taiwan having de facto independence. We know this from repeated, unequivocal official and unofficial statements about “reunification”. This article is, in fact, about exactly that.

          Your assertion that the US is trying to change the status quo by supporting the DPP might make sense in a world where the PRC wasn’t supporting the KMT to an ever greater extent; either they’re both equally trying to disrupt the status quo through political support or they’re both maintaining the status quo by supporting opposing parties. You can’t paint a “US guilty, PRC innocent” picture out of that no matter how hard you try.

          But then, of course, suggesting either major political party in Taiwan actually supports or is proposing a change to the status quo isn’t really true either, is it?