14°C = 57°F
It is 20C where I am. I don’t remember it ever being over 5-10 in this area, during December. I’m still wearing shorts, while usually going outside without a thick hoodie and a scarf used to be a stupid idea.
And on the flip side of that, the summer was so hot, that we all had to bunker inside, to avoid high humidity heat.
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? This makes no sense without further context. Where are you? Is this normal? Why is this infuriating?
Are people really this self-centred they just assume everyone lives in the same place as then and should know? It’s 35 degrees celcius here in Australia, a temp of 14 degrees looks amazing to me.
Yeah, bad post.
This is the current temp in south UK, been 14-15c last 2 days. Usually would be less than 0c now, often around -5 or lower in the past.
First Christmas I’ve seen people going from car to shop/garage in t shirts
So is OP complaining because they think it’s too hot? Where I live, people would complain that this is too cold.
You wouldn’t happen to be taking a picture of a screen from a gasoline-powered car, are you?
Quit your performative bullshit. This is one of the few instances where accusing someone of “virtue signalling” is completely valid.
Your life is carbon intensive too. Stop looking down at others.
Gas cars contribute for sure, but so do electric cars, heating houses, manufacturing, you name it. If everyone switched to riding bicycles tomorrow it wouldn’t make a huge difference. I’d like to see something like that happen over time, sure, but in this case you’re wrong to accuse OP of causing climate change (assuming you’re one of the anti-car bunch that’s everywhere on Lemmy. Sorry if I’m wrong about that).
I’m not an anti-car person. I also understand that we live in the world we are presented with, and there is a significant systemic oil culture that is difficult and expensive to not consume. I just thought this photo was a little ironic.
I bet you’re fun at parties.
That’s mean 😐
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Even in winter you’ll hardly ever see snow anywhere in Brazil yet our christmas decorations would make you think this is Northern Canada lol
Vamos todos morrer cozidos nessa merda
I live in the NW of the US. We’ve barely gotten to fall yet, let alone winter.
Here in Brazil, June is the cold month, and December, the hot month. So Christmas here is naturally warm/hot.
It’s 70 F here in Houston, Texas. It is also wet and disgusting outside.
It’s been pretty cold here in SoCal.
In 96 I visited LA. It was 70 degrees and snowflakes falling from the sky. A waitress in Johnny Rockets said the brush fires were normal as were the mild temps during that time of year.
The infuriating part here is that there are still people the think climate change is a hoax, even though we see the first effects right here, right now. Last year was similar. I remember it being like 16 degrees on New Year’s Eve. Fucking madness…
The first effects could be witnessed thirty years ago. But it’s becoming increasingly difficult to ignore. That’s why the fossil fuel industry has moved the goal posts and introduced the “climate change is of all times, it’s not caused by us” talking point, as demonstrated by Victor. But Victor is behind the times, the new one is “yes, we caused it but it’s not a big deal”.
a few years back in Sydney Australia it was 40 deg C Christmas eve and then 12 deg Christmas day. Absolutely crazy.
I don’t think climate change is a hoax. But from what I hear the major cause for it being carbon dioxide
aloneis not really true. Now, I can’t remember what evidence there was, so please, a grain of salt. But I do trust the person who said it, so, when I have more time in life I intend to find out more. But it’s not like I can do anything to revert the misinformation at this point, should it turn out to be a hoax. The media has already cemented it, and any scientists going against the grain today will lose all credibility, because “the science is done” on this (even though that is very unscientific in and of itself).You don’t lose credibility for going against the grain, you become a superstar… You just have to have compelling evidence.
All the cases I’ve seen of people who complain about this aren’t being ridiculed for ‘revealing the truth’, but for doing shoddy research and sticking by it.
Well that’s comforting.
My source has definitely done proper research into the scientific results, bypassing all mass media. So I trust them for now. But obviously I have a lot of my own research to do.
That’s why no scientist ever said the cause is carbon dioxide alone. Anybody who says that to sow distrust in the scientific community is the one that is not trustworthy.
Yes, no, you’re right. What I meant to say was that the status quo is that carbon dioxide is the dominant cause for global warming.
That’s what I’ve been shown not to be the case. My source has been plowing through a lot of scientific books and publications, which I have not, so this is only hearsay unfortunately.
I think people usually use the term “Greenhouse Gasses” because it’s an umbrella term for the other compounds like methane that do the same thing (except it doesn’t taste as good when dissolved in your soda).
I hope your source is on this train of thought and not something about secret Nazi’s melting the ice caps to establish a base and awaken Mega-Hitler from his slumber.
I hope your source is on this train of thought and not something about secret Nazi’s melting the ice caps to establish a base and awaken Mega-Hitler from his slumber.
No no no 😆 They are definitely of sound mind and going by scientific results only, peer reviewed shit. They have worked a lifetime in academia so would not compromise their own sources. That is why I trust them.
Where I live in the USA, that’s not a particularly unusual day time high for this time of year. I always like when it’s not bitterly cold at Christmas and New Years, and some of my favorite childhood Christmases/holidays were spent in shorts and t-shirts. I don’t think I’ve ever experienced snow on Christmas, perhaps a flurry at best around New Year’s Eve is the most I can recall off the top of my head.
Granted, I live some place where that’s been the norm for the past such and such number of decades since the age of the brontosaurus which is what they were called back then.
I definitely see a shift where I live in the US (Northeast). We used to get snow that stuck in November and it carried us through to March or April. Now we will get some flurries but nothing really sticks until January. The overall length remains the same, but it seems shifted by a month or two
It’s ~20C year round where I live. There are Christmas lights on the palm trees. That’s how we tell the season. Welcome to SoCal near the coast where the deep water shelf and upwelling dominate a microclimate within a couple kilometers of the coast while technically a desert with only a few weeks of rain in total each year.
Had a discussion with the wife about the last winter. That there will be a last winter with meaningfully cold temperatures was something that she had not considered at all.
There won’t be, climate is more complicated than that
Its complicated day to day but it’s not that complicated. We have a giant heat sink in the form of the arctic ocean. Once its ice free I expect freezing temperatures to be rare. There will be a point where this area(north west north america) no longer sees the 80 degree C swings in temperature that it has seen historically. Expectation is closing the temperature gap biased high.
If it’s not complicated, then explain Winter Storm Uri.
Yeah, no. It’s much more complicated. If e.g. the gulf stream changes significantly winters in Europe might get much colder. It is not as easy as Hollywood movies portray it.
Globally we will have warmer temperatures, that much seems to be pretty much confirmed. But locally the results will vary very much.
You may have missed the point. Even if the haline circulation is over turned with fresh water, Europe will still trend warmer on a wider delta and different places will see an increase in seasonal delta but as it stands there will be a last winter for everywhere. Full stop. It is a time horizon question that remains.
I’m not sure I’ve Δ’d my opinion on that.
It remains to be seen if global temperature will eventually max out (likely after a major population decline) or if we’re headed in the direction of Venus, where the planet just gets turbo-fucked beyond the ability to retain any life.
41°F here right now, so 5°C? Feels about right.
This is the coldest Christmas you’ll have from here on… It’ll only get warmer.
Not really how climate change works. While the average global temperature will trend higher, there will be colder and hotter seasons, each getting more extreme as they go back and forth. There will be hotter heat waves and colder cold snaps.
Wanna know a fun fact?
Air conditioning stops working effectively around 120F and decreases in efficiency as it gets hotter because the condenser cannot effectively discharge heat into the air.
Freshwater sources are drying up worldwide with absolute proof and nobody cares.
Take a serious look at moving somewhere moderate. The ultra wealthy are all building fortified compounds in the Michigan peninsula. Why?
It’s possible to engineer a condenser that outputs 60-80°C using exotic gases/coolant blends, but you’re right, the standard residential A/C is going to be operating at around 48°C.
Oh, of course, no doubt! I’m a child if late middle 80’s, growing up in a western coast in Norway. There was always snow during winter. The last 15 years has shown MAYBE a day or two of snow, then warmer again.
And then we had the sudden cold for a couple of weeks, which postponed the construction of a new parking lot with about two months due to the frost in the ground (there was something like a sudden 2-3 weeks of -10 Celsius).
Then we have the summer of 18 in Europe. Even Norway was so dry everything turned yellow.
It happens, but I do think that in some climates, like Norway, it’ll mostly get warmer with the freak occurrence of cold/heat (depending on the season). My previous comment is for the general term, not to be taken literally.
And thank you! I’ve missed having a constructive discussions on the internet. Happy holidays!