I found an old notebook PC lying around and I’m wondering if it could be enough to run a few services like the arr suite, qbittorrent and pi-hole.
Here’s a few specs: Cpu : Intel Celeron 1011 1.6ghz Ram : 1Gig Ethernet port
If you think it’s not a total waste of time, what distro would you install?
Total waste of time. Get the newest Pi or equivalent
Puppy Linux!
Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Gentoo, Peppermint…
Some others like damn small linux or nano Linux or Linux lite.
Crunch bang plus plus retro af
Thanks!
They really didn’t fast for old computers, most of them didn’t support x32 already, they eating many resources of ram and processor… In real world they didn’t light as declared.
DietPi (it runs on PCs)
What advantages would this give over plain Debian or similar? I’m a total noob, so I’d love something that might help me get a little more out of my little netbook ‘server’.
dietPi is in fact Debian, with extra scripts to install/remove software. They also thinned it way down, so you get a working system with the bare essentials.
Would it be worth switching if I’m already set up on Debian?
If you’re all set up on Debian, I don’t see the advantage of switching to another flavor of Debian, unless you have a low powered machine (low specs, not much RAM).
Then I’ll conseder it when I’m feeling productive. I am using an old netbook. Thanks for the answers.
Check out their website; it’ll do a better job of explaining than I can/will.
Thanks, I’ll check it out.
It’s a great OS. Ran it for a long time
I tried with a Celeron 1 GHz. It was slower than a rpi and it sucked 65 watts at idle 🙈
But at least can give some experience, I prefer playing the sysadmin with real hardware than a VM
65 w at idle? Hahahah, holy smokes!
I have a PII laptop from 1998 sitting around, still runs, don’t have the heart to pitch it. But now you’ve got me thinking… That’s a lot of juice.
Maybe it would be a neat experiment in using it via Wake-on-LAN from something else. But if it can wake from something else, that something else likely has more oomph anyway!
That’s good to know ha ha! At least I can have some fun before investing further…
It is 100% a great idea to see how you feel about the concept of self-hosting with an old machine. If it’s really old (and I’m talking like anything from before about 2008-2010), perhaps consider snagging an old “tiny”/1L-class box from eBay for cheap. Dell, HP, and Lenovo units can be found for WAY under $100 all the time, and slightly more modern units can still be had at a reasonable price, depending on the model. They’re great platforms to play around with. Just shove a cheap SSD in there and play with it.
Source: an old m920q with an i5-8500T is running pfSense for my home network
Thanks. I might simply go for the raspberry pi solution as well.
you can probably even host your firewall in it
It’s doable but you should treat it more as a learning opportunity than a production system. Honestly, that’s old enough that a RPi might be able to run circle around it.
The Celeron 1011 is a 32bit processor, so Debian or Gentoo may be the only distributions that still support it and you will probably have to compile from source anything you want to run. A gig of ram was good for its time.
The Linux Unplugged crew from Jupiter Broadcasting are currently doing a 32bit challenge to see if such systems are still usable for day to day usage. It’s going to be interesting.
Thanks! I haven’t thought of the 32 bit issue… I might give it a try anyway for the experience!
Found the spec sheet on that processor for anyone who’s interested.
Any distro. Energy consumption may be higher. Apart from that all good (I guess)
I would look into buying a mini PC and throwing a hypervisor on it.
I’d like to go low cost at the beginning but thanks!
You can get one use for 80-100 USD and it will last you for years.
Be aware that some old laptops had weird combined chipsets that Linux just can’t use… I tried putting Linux Mint on a friend’s laptop for their kids to use and the networking (wifi and cable) just wouldn’t work… it was something that only Win98 / WinXP could use (from memory).
So just try anything in case you just need to ditch it - as someone else mentioned, treat it as a learning exercise.
Thanks! I had installed Mac OSX on it back in the day so I’m hopeful.
Edit: I did manage to install Puppy Linux onto it, but I was severely limited by the CPU which is 32bits. I’m trying another old laptop next! Thanks everyone!
What kind of limitation did you run into? Lack of packages or speed?
Old distro and lack of packages
I started out self hosting on a laptop maybe a little newer than yours. Pentium, 2gb RAM. I’m happier with my pi, but it’s more than enough to get started on. Pretty sure pi-hole will run no problem, the others my struggle a little bit depending on your disk speed.
Your cpu will be a pretty limiting factor, but upgrading the RAM and putting in an SSD could boost the performance quite a bit.
I tried this recently with a 10 year old laptop. Much better specs than that. 6GB RAM, ran W10 incredibly slowly due to HDD.
I couldn’t even boot the Ubuntu USB installer.
6GB is more than enough for many desktop environments. Plus, a server wouldn’t have any anyway. not booting the Ubuntu installer seems like a bug, or other non-resource problem. if you try with a newer installer, or some other distro, that computer can host many things.
Yeah, it should have been fine. Was latest Ubuntu as well. Maybe something iffy about the laptop hardware, some obscure thing that wasn’t supported. In any case it’s gone now.
No
Worst case, give it a go, learn the process even if it can’t handle it, and you’ll be able to do it easier when you have a capable machine.
Thanks, that is the idea!
Maybe. You limiting factor is going to be power and thermals. I started on a broken laptop and moved to a minipc when I first started.
