I have recently repurposed and old Hp Stream to a home server and successfully run Immich. I really like it and even a small 500GB disk is way more than the 15GB Google offers.

My issue though is about backup. I would only be comfortable if all the data is backed up in an off-site server (cloud). But the back up storage will probably cost as much as paying for a service like ente or similar, directly replacing Google photo.

What am I missing? Where do you store your backup?

  • butitsnotme@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I backup to a external hard disk that I keep in a fireproof and water resistant safe at home. Each service has its own LVM volume which I snapshot and then backup the snapshots with borg, all into one repository. The backup is triggered by a udev rule so it happens automatically when I plug the drive in; the backup script uses ntfy.sh (running locally) to let me know when it is finished so I can put the drive back in the safe. I can share the script later, if anyone is interested.

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      1 year ago

      I would love to see your script! I’m in desperate need of a better backup strategy for my video projects

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        I followed the guide found here, however with a few modifications.

        Notably, I did not encrypt the borg repository, and heavily modified the backup script.

        #!/bin/bash -ue
        
        # The udev rule is not terribly accurate and may trigger our service before
        # the kernel has finished probing partitions. Sleep for a bit to ensure
        # the kernel is done.
        #
        # This can be avoided by using a more precise udev rule, e.g. matching
        # a specific hardware path and partition.
        sleep 5
        
        #
        # Script configuration
        #
        
        # The backup partition is mounted there
        MOUNTPOINT=/mnt/external
        
        # This is the location of the Borg repository
        TARGET=$MOUNTPOINT/backups/backups.borg
        
        # Archive name schema
        DATE=$(date '+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S')-$(hostname)
        
        # This is the file that will later contain UUIDs of registered backup drives
        DISKS=/etc/backups/backup.disk
        
        # Find whether the connected block device is a backup drive
        for uuid in $(lsblk --noheadings --list --output uuid)
        do
                if grep --quiet --fixed-strings $uuid $DISKS; then
                        break
                fi
                uuid=
        done
        
        if [ ! $uuid ]; then
                echo "No backup disk found, exiting"
                exit 0
        fi
        
        echo "Disk $uuid is a backup disk"
        partition_path=/dev/disk/by-uuid/$uuid
        # Mount file system if not already done. This assumes that if something is already
        # mounted at $MOUNTPOINT, it is the backup drive. It won't find the drive if
        # it was mounted somewhere else.
        (mount | grep $MOUNTPOINT) || mount $partition_path $MOUNTPOINT
        drive=$(lsblk --inverse --noheadings --list --paths --output name $partition_path | head --lines 1)
        echo "Drive path: $drive"
        
        # Log Borg version
        borg --version
        
        echo "Starting backup for $DATE"
        
        # Make sure all data is written before creating the snapshot
        sync
        
        
        # Options for borg create
        BORG_OPTS="--stats --one-file-system --compression lz4 --checkpoint-interval 86400"
        
        # No one can answer if Borg asks these questions, it is better to just fail quickly
        # instead of hanging.
        export BORG_RELOCATED_REPO_ACCESS_IS_OK=no
        export BORG_UNKNOWN_UNENCRYPTED_REPO_ACCESS_IS_OK=no
        
        
        #
        # Create backups
        #
        
        function backup () {
          local DISK="$1"
          local LABEL="$2"
          shift 2
        
          local SNAPSHOT="$DISK-snapshot"
          local SNAPSHOT_DIR="/mnt/snapshot/$DISK"
        
          local DIRS=""
          while (( "$#" )); do
            DIRS="$DIRS $SNAPSHOT_DIR/$1"
            shift
          done
        
          # Make and mount the snapshot volume
          mkdir -p $SNAPSHOT_DIR
          lvcreate --size 50G --snapshot --name $SNAPSHOT /dev/data/$DISK
          mount /dev/data/$SNAPSHOT $SNAPSHOT_DIR
        
          # Create the backup
          borg create $BORG_OPTS $TARGET::$DATE-$DISK $DIRS
        
        
          # Check the snapshot usage before removing it
          lvs
          umount $SNAPSHOT_DIR
          lvremove --yes /dev/data/$SNAPSHOT
        }
        
        # usage: backup <lvm volume> <snapshot name> <list of folders to backup>
        backup photos immich immich
        # Other backups listed here
        
        echo "Completed backup for $DATE"
        
        # Just to be completely paranoid
        sync
        
        if [ -f /etc/backups/autoeject ]; then
                umount $MOUNTPOINT
                udisksctl power-off -b $drive
        fi
        
        # Send a notification
        curl -H 'Title: Backup Complete' -d "Server backup for $DATE finished" 'http://10.30.0.1:28080/backups'
        

        Most of my services are stored on individual LVM volumes, all mounted under /mnt, so immich is completely self-contained under /mnt/photos/immich/. The last line of my script sends a notification to my phone using ntfy.

  • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com
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    For me the answer is that I need off site backup anyway for stuff like important digital documents, passwords and more. For me a dedicated storage provider I trust far more than Google/Apple/Microsoft which all have a financial interest in understanding me and my patterns to better sell additional services too me. So I use Dropbox but if you’re more technically inclined and have a lot of data then something akin to say Wasabi could make financial sense.

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    I have my Immich library backed up to Backblaze B2 via Duplicacy. That job runs nightly. I also have a secondary sync to Nextcloud running on another server. That said, I need another off prem backup and will likely run a monthly job to my parents house either via manually copying to an external disk then taking it over or setting up a Pi or other low power server and a VPN to do it remotely.

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    I use backblaze on my synology. I backup photos automatically to it with their built in app on my phone, then every night I run encryped backups. I also could setup an encrypted backup to go to my parent’s synology.

    My backup is about 900gb and costs <$5/mo. That is my music, pictures, movies, and TV shows. Obviously that will increase, but well worth the nominal coat to have that much backup encrypted and in the cloud.

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    I use Backblaze B2 for my backups. Storing about 2tb, comes out to about $10/mo, which is on par with Google One pricing. However, I get the benefit of controlling my data, and I use it for tons more than just photos (movies/shows etc).

    If you want a cheaper solution and have somewhere else you can store off-site (e.g. family/friend’s house), you can probably use a raspberry pi to make a super cheap backup solution.

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      If you have 1tb+ of data you can get a cheaper option just by moving to hetzner (also, even storj is cheaper than backblaze)

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    There was a good blog post about the real cost of storage, but I can’t find it now.

    The gist was that to store 1TB of data somewhat reliably, you probably need at least:

    • mirrored main storage 2TB
    • frequent/local backup space, also at least mirrored disks 2TB + more if using a versioned backup system
    • remote / cold storage backup space about the same as the frequent backups

    Which amounts to something like 6TB of disk for 1TB of actual data. In real life you’d probably use some other level of RAID, at least for larger amounts so it’s perhaps not as harsh, and compression can reduce the required backup space too.

    I have around 130G of data in Nextcloud, and the off-site borg repo for it is about 180G. Then there’s local backups on a mirrored HDD, with the ZFS snapshots that are not yet pruned that’s maybe 200G of raw disk space. So 130G becomes 510G in my setup.

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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    LVM (Linux) Logical Volume Manager for filesystem mapping
    RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
    VPN Virtual Private Network
    ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

    4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 7 acronyms.

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