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For anyone looking to sideload on their iPhone without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account, look into Trollstore, if your IOS version is compatable, you can sideload unlimited apps thanks to the 2 coretrust bugs.
without jailbreaking … thanks to the 2 coretrust bugs
I think you do not understand what these words mean
I think that you misunderstood something. Jailbreaking is getting root access. The core trust bugs allow for bypassing some apple app signing stuff so you can sideload unlimited apps with no revokes.
Trollstore github https://github.com/opa334/TrollStore
Core trust documentation https://worthdoingbadly.com/coretrust/
Common Brexit L
Was Brexit really worth it?
Enjoy your walled garden, you paid for it.
I got it for free. It used to be my Gran’s.
I don’t know how to interpret this comment
He got a hand-me-down iPhone because he’s poor, and has decided it’s better than no phone, but is sad it’s still a walled garden despite other people being rescued.
Is there a joke I’m missing?
Oh, I though we were talking about a physical garden
Gran is short for Grandma. Hope that helps clarify.
So how big is this garden?
not sure that was the problem
He saying he didn’t pay for the walled garden he’s now stuck in, he inhereted the iPhone.
When is a gift not a gift?
Ooh I know this one
When it’s a jar!
Yes I am, i bought to Apple fully know that it not allow side loading and happy with it. If I want side loading, I would switch to Android immediately and stop bitching about Apple. (Not that I said you bitching but alot of other people are doing it)
Switch to android?
Do you have a link to the article you took the screenshot from?
“Minimizes diminished App Store revenue”
I am an Apple user and in the end I’m more comfortable with them having access to my data than google… but man, they don’t even bother to pretend it’s a pro-consumer issue thing anymore.
Been noticing that a lot lately, corporate weasel language is dying as these companies grow more and more emboldened.
Anything Google is optional on Android, especially since the EU’s DMA which now mandates the service accounts to be decoupled (or to make coupling optional, to be more precise).
Just use something AOSP with F-droid. It will be much better for privacy.
are you thick in the head? and I don’t mean the one in your pants.
Are you?
yes very thick in the pantal region thanks for noticing
I’m getting real tired of corpo doublespeak. It’s everywhere right now and I feel like people are finally getting wise to it. I don’t want to hear whatever made up by committee garbage you came up with. Give us an answer.
Both Google and Apple sell your data to the same companies. It’s kinda the point of them having ‘an ecosystem’ (monopolized ofc).
All “privacy” efforts they made with their OSs were exclusively so third party apps can collect less data from you and have to buy data from Google/Apple.
Proof that Apple sell your data?
The op I replied to? Apples quarterly revenue statements? Their terms you agree to? Explicit ‘Apple privacy policy’ on the subject?
Both Apple and Google restrict third party app privacy not for your protection/increased privacy but to monopolize data collection. Eg Facebook vs Meta was a few years ago a fairly public fight.
But on both OSs you don’t really have the option to restrict data collection from their services (on some Androids you can’t even disable Google services, much less uninstall them). And Google also pays several billions per quarter to Apple to be the default search
data collectionengine.It is true tho that companies differ a lot so the data collection is different too (the biggest difference is that Apple doesn’t have that much need for user data since it isn’t really in personalized ad business).
You are delusional. It’s wild that you’re using sources like Apple’s privacy policy as a source when it directly contradicts what you’re claiming.
The authoritative sources that you listed explicitly state:
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Apple only delivers ads in 3 places (App Store, Apple News, Stocks). Contrast this with Google, which delivers ads on virtually every app on every screen you interact with if you’ve got an Android phone.
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Apple doesn’t share any personal data with third parties for advertising. They also don’t “sell” your data at all. They also don’t buy (or receive) any personal data from third parties to use for marketing. Again, contrast that with Google, whose entire business model is doing each of those things as invasively as possible.
I’m not claiming that Apple is “moral” or “ethical” or anything like that. But Apple’s profits are driven by them selling hardware, which means that if I’m someone who wants to buy hardware, their interests are at least somewhat aligned with mine. On the other hand, Google’s profits are driven by selling ads that are based on the most emotionally charged personal information they can gather. Any service they provide you is just bait for you to chew on so they can build the inventory they sell to advertisers.
Sorry, but you really need to lay of the crack my friend.
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I am gonna guess they have their own ad setup. So they collect the data, setup profiles and whatnot. Then an advertiser can come and pay to use their system for targeted ads. Now does that count as “selling your data”? Not technically I guess. Google does exactly the same thing tho, right? I fail to see how they differ in any way. I suppose you can HOPE that apple cares about its reputation enough to handle your data carefully, but that is about it. Hopes and prayers.
It’s a matter of time. Other countries just need a copy paste law. Apple knows this. But right now it’s worth it to keep 2 systems around.
It’s pretty funny considering their main arguments have never mentioned the financial impact and always leaned on SeCuRitY, or some dumb shit the fanboys will regurgitate.
Like, Apple you lying little slut — we know you cuck for coins in everything you do.
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Sideloading should still be possible through something like the AltStore or 3uTools
Another Brexit Benefit
Fuck Nigel Frog face Farrage, The Haunted Victorian Pencil Jacob Rees-Mogg, Lord David Pig Fucker Cameron, Maybot, Boris I don’t care where I stick my Johnson, and all the rest of the Tories who either actively supported this or were to self interested to not rebel as their leaders doubled down on their Brexit folly again and again.
As a mainland European I find Brexit absolutely hilarious. Even Labour is now like: “we didn’t get the bad press, so we’re fine with Brexit now”.
good to see an alternative-frontends enjoyer.
What is that square with an up arrow icon near the bottom left supposed to do? Help you square up for hitting a golf ball or something?
Open in external app
Thanks. Not particularly intuitive.
It’s the share button. Allows… sharing, but also opening in an external app as the other user mentioned.
Where there is a will, there is a way
I don’t know how the situation works with apple devices, but wouldn’t it be possible to import a model from a country with sideloading required?
I know it’s more expensive, but it’s something I’d do and have been thinking about with a different phone that ain’t available in my country.
Possibly, but for the sake of sideloading I’d may as well just buy an Android.
The Big Five Oh
Don’t cry over it. I live in Europe so I’ll get it but the thing is that Apple will most likely force people into some kind of bullshit certificate that you’ve to buy in order to be able to sideload. The legislation won’t stop them from doing this and it will effetely only be used by large companies that can go through the vetting process and pay the ridiculous amounts of money Apple will ask for it.
Why would you assume the legislation won’t stop it, they have iteratively corrected legislation to mandate it’s original intent plenty of times, most recently they’ve begun looking at cookies because the banner wasn’t the intention of the lawmakers.
Why would you assume the legislation won’t stop it, they have iteratively corrected legislation to mandate it’s original intent plenty of times
Because just for starters Apple even tried to argue they shouldn’t be subject to the legislation because they didn’t have one store but multiple stores. Same with iMessage and whatnot.
If you consider what is written today about side-loading then Apple could be considered in compliance if they just decided to create a “sideloading program” where you can apply and pay for a special certificate with a vetting process with a lot of restrictions (being a company over a certain size etc). Essentially the same as the current Enterprise program but extended to allow 3rd party stores and distribution of App to random users not part of the same organization.
most recently they’ve begun looking at cookies because the banner wasn’t the intention of the lawmakers.
Yes but do you know what happens? Due to the way the EU works and our constitutions and agreements work we’re talking about at least one year of discussions about the issue and then a 3 year period where countries will have to study what was decided by the European Commission and pass national legislation about it. Then you’ll have a transition period like (2 more years) until such legislation goes in effect (deadline). So we’re talking about around 5 years to get anything practical. We’ve seen this with USB-C - even before there was USB-C the EU was in talks to adopt a single port (at the time Micro/Mini USB) and it all took about 10 years to unfold.
Apple is very good as twisting things and what’s currently written on the proposal doesn’t force Apple to open up iOS to be a generic platform like macOS or Windows - it simply asks them to allow 3rd party stores and sideloading of applications outside their store. Doesn’t say that anyone should be able do it, doesn’t set the terms, doesn’t say it should be free.
So they adapt their policies throughout the process to make sure they are modern?
You’re taking a very pessimistic view of this process.
Because just for starters Apple even tried to argue they shouldn’t be subject to the legislation because they didn’t have one store but multiple stores. Same with iMessage and whatnot
But it didn’t work, did you expect apple not to claim they were compliant and didn’t need regulation?
You’re taking a very pessimistic view of this process.
No, no, I’m taking a realistic view. I know exactly how and why it works this way and it makes it somehow more democratic and productive while appeasing the lobbying efforts and capabilities of big companies.
It just takes a lot of time, and you’ll remember my post whenever Apple finally decides to announce sideloading.
It isn’t realistic, you’re complaining. You’re giving out that apple will fight their case, in what world would they not? Companies will try to find workarounds to laws and lawmakers will try to close loopholes. Is their lobbying influence? Absolutely. But it’s hasn’t stopped the creation of the legislation.
Apple side loading will be proof the law is working, that is the intention of the law to facilitate side loading. If they find a way to make it difficult there are avenues that can be taken from anti competition cases to changing the law.
I honestly cannot see what you’re giving out about. Do you want laws passed in a day with no oversight?
You’re giving out that apple will fight their case, in what world would they not?
No, I’m giving out they’ll bypass the intent of the law while complaining. Or at least they’ll bypass your interpretation of the law because in mine it doesn’t say anything about against restricting it, about having a vetting process or requiring payments.
