Was talking about my kid with my mom. Said we should let kid visit my mom until Saturday, because they go to church practically all day on Sunday and no little kid deserves to have to sit through that. She said, “well a little church won’t hurt her,” to which I replied “IT MIGHT.”
It sure as shit hurt me; I had enough for 10 lifetimes.
Depends on how you see it. The parable of the drowning man:
A storm descends on a small town, and the downpour soon turns into a flood. As the waters rise, the local preacher kneels in prayer on the church porch, surrounded by water. By and by, one of the townsfolk comes up the street in a canoe.
“Better get in, Preacher. The waters are rising fast.”
“No,” says the preacher. “I have faith in the Lord. He will save me.”
Still the waters rise. Now the preacher is up on the balcony, wringing his hands in supplication, when another guy zips up in a motorboat.
“Come on, Preacher. We need to get you out of here. The levee’s gonna break any minute.”
Once again, the preacher is unmoved. “I shall remain. The Lord will see me through.”
After a while the levee breaks, and the flood rushes over the church until only the steeple remains above water. The preacher is up there, clinging to the cross, when a helicopter descends out of the clouds, and a state trooper calls down to him through a megaphone.
“Grab the ladder, Preacher. This is your last chance.”
Once again, the preacher insists the Lord will deliver him.
And, predictably, he drowns.
A pious man, the preacher goes to heaven. After a while he gets an interview with God, and he asks the Almighty, “Lord, I had unwavering faith in you. Why didn’t you deliver me from that flood?”
God shakes his head. “What did you expect?? I sent you two boats and a helicopter.”
What part of this is a meme?
In the most literal and original sense of the word, it is a meme. As in an idea that evolves and propagates from one mind to another.
People LOVE circlejerking
… what part isn’t? memes are real yo
Yeah, until they turn to mental people to solve their problems.
“He says what we’re all thinking”
Think something else.
No Anakin, stop praying to the angels that live on the moons of San Diego!
Oh San Diego…
Not many people know what the lost translation of San Diego means. It’s German of course.
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I believe it means… A whale’s vagina
And the force. That’s just microscopic bacteria in your blood stream
A proper educated religious person will learn that they have to take matter into their own hand before god help them. For us non-believer, that’s called luck.
My favorite religious saying is “God helps those who help themselves”. This is a bit like that old story of the pill that kills your thirst, but you have to take it with a cup full of water.
Truth x Facts
Have you been by !atheistmemes@lemmy.world? I think they might enjoy this even more there.
go back to reddit with this cringe atheism shit
edit for the rabid atheist redditors i’ve angered: i am not religious, i just think you’re more annoying than those who are
Enjoy your hell
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that’s fine with me since i don’t care about religion, but i think you atheist debatelords are giving religious fanatics a serious run for their money in the endless cringe-off
than praying to a Jew on a stick who’s been dead for 2000 years.
As cheesy as this is, I have to admit it’s hilarious
You sound like Redditers who migrated from Digg talking shit about Digg users.
Isn’t it more cringe to have an imaginary friend as an adult?
why do you care what other adults believe in? i’m not religious but i also don’t try to control what other people should and shouldn’t use for comfort
In my experience, this did not occur. I’m still a responsible adult as a Christian.
Even as an atheist I can’t help but cringe at this kinda stuff. Assuming OP lives in America too, he should be as aware as I am that the vast majority of Christians are equally capable as anyone else.
I think there’s a lot of unprocessed emotions (especially with young people on the internet) that sort of creates a high demand for content like this, where we want to laugh at and condemn people that replace the help of doctors and educators with faith, which gets misdirected at Christians in general despite how fringe that type of behavior really is.
What we should actually be condemning is the political powers that abuse religious institutions to do actual widespread tangible harm to our communities, and the people who follow them uncritically and enthusiastically. *cough cough* PragerU *cough* MAGA. And it’s funny to me, because I think it’s pretty plain to see for any outsiders and a lot of Christians as well that if Jesus descended on today’s America, he’d be pretty disappointed by the behavior this leads them to endorse.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
Wow, I don’t often see atheists recognizing that politicians are trying to hijack Christianity. That’s refreshing. Thanks!
Well it’s pretty clear that most politicians are not real Christians judging by their actions.
Depending on which though, no matter how responsible you are you may not even be able to get a blood transfusion after an accident. So it’s not all up to you.
Pardon my French, but I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness, so that’s not my fault. If anything, a blood transfusion is a good thing because it’s a sacrifice (albeit a small one) so that someone else can live. Pretty Christ-like, I’d say.
Well duh but clearly some religions believe that you’re not allowed to sacrifice to help someone else. So it doesn’t matter if you’re responsible enough you may or may not be allowed to do things to help other people based on your religion.
Okay. That wasn’t really what I was talking about, but carry on. I’m not stepping in to defend a misunderstanding of the Bible.
People like to shit on religion regardless of it multiple benefits because they see bad things.
If someone is sick and you are not a doctor and you feel powerless having a spiritual beliefs that you wishes for there recovery help reduce the pain and the guilt of being helpless.
In addition to the fact some religions will push for work along with pryer. You can ask for guidance and still work hard to reaolve your problems.
In addition to the fact some religions will push for work along with pryer.
Agreed. If your kid asks for help with something they can do themselves, it’s generally best not to do the whole thing for them, but to be there for support as they go through it. Otherwise you’re cheating them out of an opportunity for growth. Obviously there are exceptions, like if it’s dangerous or needlessly difficult.
Love, as I understand it, is wanting the best for someone, and that means doing what it takes to help them be the best they can be. So of course God, who is love, would prioritize our growth over us having an easy time. And there are times when that means intervening too.
I get this and I think it’s fine for others but I prefer to raw dog life without imaginary friends.
It’s crazy how even though we are raising our little guy non-religious he has “learned” so much from kids at school/friends. We have started playing a game with him called “Fact, Fiction, Belief” where you have to name, you guessed it a fact, fiction and belief. For example, a fact is “a tree is a plant” a fiction would be “trees can walk like ents” a belief would be “cherry blossom trees are the most beautiful plants in the world.” It has really helped him see that beliefs are kind of their own category, they are real to the person who has them but not necessarily shared by everyone.
That’s wonderful and you are heroes.
fail even to look
The unfortunate thing is that children are brainwashed at a young age. When they get older it’s all they know, and if they question it they’ll go to hell. Everyone wants to be free but so many people are a slave to religion and they aren’t even aware.
Religion is fucking cancer.
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Which one doesn’t?
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Look at all the religious people achieving things throughout history.
Yeah like fucking children, treating other people as property, or murdering those who believe a different fake thing is real.
Cherry picking verses is not the same as refuting an argument. The books say many things that are not practiced. In reality children are in fact taught to rely on supernatural powers.
To prove my point:
Say “Nothing will befall us except what Allah has decreed for us; He is our Protector.” Let the believers, then, put all their trust in Allah. -Quran, 9:51
“Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” -Proverbs 3:5-6
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To give you credit people do wayyy overestimate how much faith plays a role in the average Christian’s actual practical life. It’s not like your local Christian mechanic is fixing your car with prayers, or that they’re just gonna have faith that the Nigerian prince in their inbox is gonna send them a million dollars.
I think a better point (than the one the other guy is attempting to make) is that there’s thousands of sects that will tell you thousands of different interpretations. There’s no one right way to be religious and anyone is free to interpret their text however they feel like, so it’s not like your flavor of belief is any more valid that the people who do believe God will always protect and provide. Regardless of how uncommon it is, it’s hard to deny that the whole faith thing has given us some communities that are susceptible to things like faith healing. Which is unfortunate for the kids who don’t know any better or have no power to change the situation have to suffer the consequences of that behavior.
But let’s be honest, even if we didn’t have Christianity or abrahamic religions, chances are those same people would be doing the same shit but with crystals, horoscopes, and tarot cards.
The real problem I wish more of us were talking about is the amount of faith people put into preachers peddling politics from the pulpit. (Accidental alliteration lolll)
Why not? Are they thinking for themselves instead of blindly following their religious texts? Do they not trust the lord?
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Ah, yes. “Interpretation”, of a thousands-year-old text, originally written by men to control other men, in Hebrew and translated at least three times in sequence before reaching even the predecessor of the popular King James Bible, then the apostles wrote the whole New Testament at minimum 50 years after all the alleged events contained within and possibly up to a couple hundred years later, then the whole thing was gutted, reordered and rewritten by old King James himself, then it was passed through the grubby mitts of between 10 and 30 generations of southern baptist-esque preacher before finally reaching the ears of the modern avid churchgoer.
If you think a single word in that book still holds the original meaning that it was written with, and more so if you think any part of that book is a factual account of events, I have several bridges to sell you. If not even that is enough to spark a little bit of self reflection, I invite you to investigate the Mormons and see what happens when religious ““interpretation”” is allowed to run free without restraint.
Thanks for showing me what the block button is for
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Taoism, Buddhism…
Aren’t those more philosophies than religions? It’s been a while since I was in college.
Correct
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From what I recall it is more of a way of life than a religion (or philosophy for that matter), again this was taught to me 12 years ago at FGCU so take what you want from that.
Religions and philosophical traditions frequently have overlap. It’s not really an either/or situation.
In this specific instance I would say the distinction matters as the critical point of this discussion is the deity.
