Moscow is building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, creating a sense of urgency, the general said

Norway must ramp up defence spending in the face of a potential war with Russia within three years, the country’s armed forces chief has warned.

General Eirik Kristoffersen said in an interview with Dagbladet, a Norwegian newspaper, that time was running out to build up the nation’s defences in the face of an increasingly unpredictable Russia.

“The current window of opportunity will remain open for a year or two, perhaps three, which is when we will have to invest even more in our defence,” Gen Kristoffersen said in the interview, published on Sunday.

“We do not know what will become of Russia in three years. We need to prepare a strong national defence to be able to meet an uncertain and unpredictable world,” he added.

The Norwegian general said Moscow was building up its weapons stockpiles much faster than Nato allies had anticipated, adding to the sense of urgency.

  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The west has been twiddling their fucking thumbs since the invasion started and the only reason they did things in the first place is because people had to twist their representatives arms. While Russia may not invade Norway, I think there is a huge probability of them trying to take a bite out of Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania.

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      11 months ago

      There is quite literally no chance of this. If it happens, I’ll buy you a year’s worth of beer.

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          11 months ago

          Nope. Ukraine was a lone wolf and Putin thought it’d be easy pickings (though I’m sure he realized pretty soon how much he fucked up), but no way he’s going up against nations that are part of actual defensive pacts.

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          11 months ago

          Why would Russia do that? What material, factual reasons do you have for them to do it?

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              11 months ago

              Wtf does that have to do with anything? You think Putin and the current Russian government, who are staunch anti-communist and have repeatedly disavowed the USSR are…? Like what is the MATERIAL analysis here? You are just talking about your vibes and ideology!

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                Duuur what does Putin wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings have to do with him wanting to conquer former Russian Empire and Soviet holdings duuuurrrr I’m surely making an honest argument!

                If I say the Marxist buzzwords despite ignoring all their actual meanings people will agree with me!

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                  11 months ago

                  Got it, so you have nothing. But that is obvious, or you wouldn’t think absurd things like this war was a war of conquest or anything like that.

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    AFAIK Norway is the only nation bordering Russia that has never once in history been at war with it. This asstwat and other military men have been on Norwegian national media crying for more funds after the invasion of Ukraine. One has to see this in context of Norway having underfunded their military for some time and historically being subjugated by Denmark and Sweden. However, long story short, it is just fear mongering. Russia poses no credible threat to Norway with the backing of NATO.

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      You don’t think there’s a risk of NATO losing the us if trump wins?

      NATO in the EU needs to be ready to step up

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        I would still be much more worried about the Baltic states being invaded. Even so, there is a reason no major powers have been at war since the invention of nukes, and NATO would not in any way be a pushover without the US.

        I do not disagree on allocating more funds to the military. I even argued that it objectively has been underfunded. That does not change that this man is an asstwat and others like him try to scare Norwegians for their own purposes. I think a scared populace is a dangerous thing, possibly allowing for dangerous ideas to be implemented in the name of security. Recently some hefty surveillance has been implemented in Norway, which I blame on people like him.

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      Norway is part of NATO, and has strong incentives to make sure that its neighbours aren’t at risk of being invaded. They still have reason to want to make sure Russia wouldn’t be able to invade.

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        11 months ago

        and has strong incentives to make sure that its neighbours aren’t at risk of being invaded

        What do you mean?

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          Finland and Sweden getting invaded is terrible for Norway’s economy’s and plenty of individual lives, so Norway has a natural interest in making sure those countries are well defended, either through their own means or through diplomacy, regardless of their own individual risk of being attacked by Russia.

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    Bullshit warmongering propaganda. edit: and let me guess, part of the solution would be buying very expensive, US made weapons.

    edit 2 since I see it’s a popular post: I also love how - like how immigrants are at the same time too lazy to work and living on social security, but also stealing all the jobs - Russia is at the same time too weak and pathetic to invade a country like Ukraine but also going to start a war with all of NATO, lol. 🤡

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      If you had an influx of say 100,000 people that would be enough to disrupt labour markets due to supply and demand and that would reduce wages and total avaliable jobs to the native population. So from a native point of view you are looking at either being unemployed or having a job at a lower wage.

      Now if another 100,000 people came into the country and didn’t work and was on benefits then as a native your taxes are going to them.

      Those two groups of people don’t impact each other. So both statements can be true. Low paid workers don’t tend to create jobs. So from a low paid point of view you got nothing to gain from immigration.

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      My first thought reading the headline is: I don’t see how Russia is building up a stockpile while burning through their stockpile it in Ukraine. That makes no sense whatsoever.

      Russia is also burning through bodies so I don’t see them being particularly able or willing to try to invade Norway or anywhere else anytime soon.

      It seems from all accounts they’ve got their hands full in Ukraine and are making little or no progress.

      I think you’re right about buying US weapons. I don’t think it is warmongering but rather shilling for the military industrial complex.

      Edit: still, I wouldn’t disarm or anything and maybe somewhat shore up defense. Maybe a decade or two Russia tries some more stupid shit.

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      it’s certainly not propaganda… Russia is a shambles, and nobody knows what happens when Putin dies… Norwegian generals are not known for hyperbole… unlike little trolls on the internet…

      and they certainly won’t buy cheap Chinese and North Korean stuff like the Russians do

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    11 months ago

    Damn, the Russian trolls are really trying today huh. I’ve seen them in multiple threads making the same damned points.

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    Russia wants NATO and other nations to feel that they could invade so the countries will start focusing on thier own defensive positions and stop giving aod to Ukraine. Expect to see a LOT of fake news and propaganda about this.

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      Not to say they’re NOT doing this, but it would be very counterproductive. If you think Russia might attack you, the cheapest option is to arm Ukraine. You get to fight Russia and you only pay materiel costs not personnel. A lot more bang for the buck. Not to mention that by arming Ukraine you’re also coalition building with every other country that’s doing the same. Which means if Russia does attack you, you can be quite confident that you will also be armed if not directly supported due to the escalation.

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        Yeahhh Ukrainian lives are cheap! Give em a gun and throw em into the meat grinder boys!

        The only way I can see Ukraine being saved is by actually getting them into Nato.

        Else you’re just throwing their lives aways to kill some Russian draftee.