Justice Amanda Yip lifted the reporting restrictions on naming the killers of 16-year-old Brianna Ghey. They were identified at Manchester Crown Court as Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe.
The horrific murder shocked the nation. Ghey was stabbed with a hunting knife 28 times in her head, neck, chest and back in broad daylight after being lured to a park in the town of Warrington on Feb. 11, 2023.
Yip handed Ratcliffe and Jenkinson a mandatory life sentence, and ordered them to serve a minimum term of 20 and 22 years, respectively, before they could be eligible for parole. If they had been adults — over the age of 18 — they would have faced much longer minimum terms. They will be transferred to adult prisons when they turn 18. Neither showed no visible reaction on being sentenced.
Fuck them
Good to see that they got a life sentence and not the usual “they’re minors so they’ll do some years in a community” bullshit that happens in my country
Minimum of only 20 years though before eligible for parole
20 years is a looooong time when you’re 16. They’ve lost their entire young adulthood and then some
They’ll be on licence for the rest of their lives following that though. The minimum term on a life sentence is just the custodial part.
on licence. right, what’s that, then? will they have any other sort of restrictions once they get out at minimum 36?
The 20 years is the minimum time they’ll do in prison.
After the 20 years they’ll be eligible for parole. If, and only if, the board decides that it’s safe for them to be released will they do so.
If they are released they will be in license. This means they are subject to prison recall without trial should they pose any risk to the public. The license may also impose additional restrictions such as regular therapy appointments, restrictions on leaving the country etc. These conditions will be imposed for life. Breaking any of these restrictions would also result in a recall to prison.
If the parole board decides that it’s not safe to release them, then they’ll remain in prison. They may very well remain in prison for their entire life.
They’re minors. In the UK and most of the developed world, you cannot give life without parole to a minor.
And that’s unfortunate. This planet is already too crowded. Why spend resources on scum like this? Lock them away forever.
Worth noting that it costs a lot of state resources to lock them away forever.
And?
And the previous commenter suggested locking them away forever instead of wasting resources on them.
Idk I think people who murder a girl in cold blood shouldn’t ever be allowed to participate in society, but that’s just me.
They only get out on parole if the board (or whatever the UK’s equivalent is) believes they have learned a lesson and are safe to reenter society. If not then they stay until the next board meeting. I have a hard time imagining they would get out after 20 years for murder without the board being pretty damn sure they are no longer a danger to society.
As gross and heinous as these crimes are, I will never favor life-without-parole or the death penalty for minors.
Jeez and they were still teenagers.
No matter their age, they deserve lifetime prison. If they are able to murder at that age, they should be prosecuted as adults as well.
Just so we’re clear, this is the endgame of all of the propaganda against trans people. Many are culpable in this.
Based on the evidence presented the murderers didn’t have anything against trans people, didn’t misgender her or anything like that. She seems to have been selected simply because she was an easy target due to various mental health issues
Oh most def. The Chris–conservatives will with no regrets murder y’all the moment they can. This was never about sports or bathrooms or dorms. This is about a segment of the population who thinks God wants them to kill the LGBT and said as much in the Bible.
Is there such a thing as a “heavenly murder”? I thought all murder was bad. Seems odd trying to demonize murder more than it already would be. Like, would it have been better if they were crucified? Yikes.
A bit confused, are you reacting to sadistic? That word doesn’t mean evil, it means enjoying giving pain to others. There are murders that aren’t as sadistic, as they could try to poison someone in sleep etc, giving no pain.
The wording is suggesting they very much enjoyed the process of committing the murder, making it more painful on purpose.
The lynching of Mussolini was a pretty good murder. Same with the English pedophile prince the IRA murdered as well.
An absolutely horrifying crime, and I’m not trying to make light of an awful tragedy, but some of these names sound like they were randomly generated from a Hollywood database that includes names like Scarlett Johansson, Eddie Redmayne, Daniel Radcliffe, Amanda Seyfried, etc.
JFC this name list is from a Japanese baseball game (MLBPA baseball / Fighting baseball) from 1994/1995.
I’m sick and tired of violent extremism and the people profiteering from it being treated as “just another point of view” because that leads to this leads to these crimes being normalized.
It’s hard enough being trans without being actively hunted by psychotic overzealous and cruel people. What can individuals possibly do in the face of such societal cruelty?
Something needs to change.
Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe.
How come the media never mentions if they are Christian or not? Why hasn’t the Pope condemned this act in Latin and English?
Unlikely, but I see your point.
Why is Richard Dawkins silent on this issue?
Only 6% of adults are practicing Christians in the UK. It’s statistically unlikely this has anything to do with religion.
TIL that 6% = 0%
Now answer my questions. Why didn’t the Pope condemn the attack in Latin and English?
Because if they were Christian. they were probably Anglican.
I see. So if they were Catholic the response from the Pope would NOT be silence? No? Seems like the gotcha doesn’t work.
If they burnt a cross into the person they killed or claimed they were doing it for religious reasons, yeah, the pope does often condemn such acts. But really it’s just another murder.
it for religious reasons,
Yes the venn diagram between skydaddy followers and anti-trans is two circles with no overlap. How silly of me to think that there was any link.
yeah, the pope does often condemn such acts
I know. The Pope never condemns people who carry out what he preaches.
But really it’s just another murder.
Next time a Muslim guy is in the news I can remind you of that.
Oh ok, so you’re just an idiot. Nevermind.
Why would the pope comment on a murder in England that has no religious motive? Has Justin Welby condemned it? Mirza Masroor Ahmad? Yitzhak Yosef? No, because it’s completely irrelevant. Stop piggybacking on this tragedy with your weird religious agenda.
Right Christianity has nothing whatsoever even the slightest not even a hint to do with this. Nope.
What does the Pope have to do with the Anglican Church? Also what does it matter if they were religious or not?
What does the Pope have to do with the Anglican Church?
They are all Christians.
Also what does it matter if they were religious or not?
Indeed. Makes you wonder why when there is a Muslim or an refugee or an immigrant murderer I hear so much about it. Media is full of stories today about an arrest of a refugee made in a center.
Ah, is that a common thing in the UK to bring up religion if the perp was Muslim?
The Pope does not represent the Anglican Church. It’d have to be the King of England speaking up.
Go checkout the dailymail and see for yourself.
Isn’t that a righting tabloid trash?
Ah, is that a common thing in the UK
I answered your question. By all measures very popular and thus common.
Not all christians recognize the Pope. It’s like asking why the patriarch of Constantinople or the patriarch of Moscow didn’t comment on the news.
What does that have to do with anything?
it’s satire about how if a muslim or an immigrant commits a crime, everyone expects imams or community leaders of that culture to comment publicly or else consider them in support of the crime
Do you believe that Christianity had nothing to do with this?
The irony that next to each other, left to right or right to left, looks like before and after transition shots.
I was trying to figure out which one was the victim…
The pretty one.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the girl had been jealous that Brianna was prettier than she was, and the boy had loathingly fancied her.
FUCK religion
Absolutely. But what does that have to do with this case? Honestly asking, the article didn’t say anything about the motive besides an interest jn violence and serial-killers.
I think a lot of Americans, at least in this thread feel like this would be linked with Christian wackos. In Europe we have Christian wackos but they are not the same as the ones you have and are far fewer. It’s much more likely that people who hate on a minority are under educated and/or poor. It’s also much less of a sides thing, we don’t have the Christian wackos (GOP) vs “the rest”. Most countries have some sort of proportional representation, so there are Christians in all groups, the Christian wackos are more dilute. That’s not to say that they are non existant more that you can’t, for example, guess that these people were religious and probably be right like you might in the US.
Ah thanks, but I’m not from the US (thank god). So this isn’t a fact i just missed in other news, it’s just the usual duality with no grey in between. I really doubt there was any religion or politics in them. Just sadism and hate. And they picked a target that their surroundings hate. That’s what kids do. My 2 euro-cents.
I meant to reply to the person above you actually, sorry.
The thing that hit me with sadness most (aside the horrible murder) is that when you see pictures of Brianna, her eyes are full of life and happiness.
And then you see pictures of these two, devoid of any spark. Dead inside.
Well…those were mugshots taken after their arrests on murder charges… wouldn’t it be even more disturbing if they were smiling and cheerful?
Both apparently showed no sympathy during the trial. Denying they did it and accusing the other.
Thats what conservatism does to people
How…how did you make this about politics… seriously, at 16 kids are not thinking about politics
It’s absolutely sickening. This comment section is using this poor kids murder as a reinforcement to fit their partisan bias. I’m assuming most of these people are terminally online or are living miserable/empty lives, devoid of love. Now watch, they’ll use their internet points to feel vindicated against me, now that I’m probably an evil conservative boogy man in their eyes.
LMFAO… Typical conservative, when the other side does it is all “see this is what they want” but when it’s their side that does is, which is to say 99% of the time someone does something heinous to another human being, it’s all “why are you making this political?” … I don’t know, because conservatives have been trying to exterminate trans people for decades now?? As if anyone but a conservative would kill someone for being trans. What a joke!
This is absolutely political and it’s political specifically because of people like these two.
If you look into it, it looks like it was less political and more obsessive.
Your attempt to deny exactly what conservatism is and it’s effects on society has resulted in complete and utter failure on your part.
were intelligent
planned for weeks
stabbed with a knife
I know the sadistic part is about enjoyment (probably the planning process too), but …
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Ghey was stabbed with a hunting knife 28 times in her head, neck, chest and back in broad daylight after being lured to a park in the town of Warrington on Feb. 11, 2023.
Yip handed Ratcliffe and Jenkinson a mandatory life sentence, and ordered them to serve a minimum term of 20 and 22 years, respectively, before they could be eligible for parole.
“You both took part in a brutal and planned murder, which was sadistic in nature, and a secondary motivation was hostility to Brianna, because of her transgender identity.”
However, Yip said that after they were found guilty last month, there was a “strong public interest in the full and unrestricted reporting of what is plainly an exceptional case.” Lawyers for the two argued that naming them would have ramifications for their welfare.
“The two appear to have had a deadly influence on each other and turned what may have started out as dark fantasies about murder into a reality,” Crown prosecutor Nicola Wyn Williams said outside the courthouse.
“I have moments where I feel sorry for them because they have also ruined their own lives, but I have to remember that they felt no empathy for Brianna when they left her bleeding to death after their premeditated and vicious attack, which was carried out not because Brianna had done anything wrong, but just because one hated trans people and the other thought it would be fun,” her mother Esther Ghey said in a statement that was read to the court.
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