There’s some misinformation floating around regarding Lemmy not having a karma system. While many have discovered otherwise, this is for those who may not have.
While it’s not exposed in the Lemmy default user interface, Lemmy does have a fully functional karma system and it is visible in third party clients such as WefWef and Memmy.
Do with that what you will.
Karma on Lemmy has zero value, because you can easily manipulate the numbers.
Unlike Reddit?
Can you spin up your own Reddit instance and give yourself ♾-1 karma?
i’m personally going to shoot for NaN karma, maybe null if i’m feeling spicy.
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Oh no. Anyway, karma wasn’t the worst thing about reddit so it should be fine, I hope…
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Technically, all of them. Your home instance will be the most accurate because it’ll have the most complete data about you but each instance you have federated contact with will end up keeping track. I honestly haven’t pulled apart the code to see how it all comes together but I suspect that may be a reason why they don’t surface the data in the UI, lack of consistency.
Honestly is it even worth anything? Even on reddit I didn’t really pay attention to how much karma a user had, maybe when I wanted to check if it was a bot or something.
I’d check sometimes whether someone had a history and how long their account had been around, but 18,000 vs 80,000 or 800,000 is super meaningless to me. Personally I’d delete my accounts every 1-6 months. It was a pain to start over but after that, so what. Reddit is practically anonymous. Posts and comments stand on their own to me… it’s not about the reputation of the author.
When it comes to gauging advice, or doing something like buying or trading used goods it was helpful as a proxy for trustworthiness. Older accounts with good karma are a lot less sketchy than brand new accounts.
You’re right, didn’t think about that.
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Yeah but that can be determined just by account age and number of posts, not by the public reception of those posts.
With the exception of if someone has negative karma, that’s a decent indication that they’re being unpleasant on purpose.
Nah, too many times I’ve seen the best written answer get upvoted and the correct answer go untouched. The worst being “I’m a journeyman electrician” then proceeds to give incorrect information on how to wire something, which gets all the upvotes then the correct comments getting nothing.
Not talking about votes on specific comments. Talking about profile aggregation. I’ve done vinyl trades, clothing swaps, hired people to 3d print things, etc. For those kinds of interactions you aren’t looking at the quality of one specific post, but want to validate that it’s not a temporary account for a scam and that the user generally cares about the reputation of their name on the platform.
Karma farm again?
Thanks, I hate it. Promotes gamesmanship and super douches like Gallowboob.
Yeah if people start going for Karma we’ll be plagued by “this” and stupid puns. Yesterday I saw a reddit post where the guy misspelled WiFi as Wife when explaining his problem, and then the top 10 comments were “omg dude you can’t just get a new wife” or “I wouldn’t come to Reddit for a problem with my wife”
The actual solutions to the problem were rubbish too
Yup, there’s a lot of hurrrr hurrrr hurrr stuff on reddit. Which isn’t inherently bad…but they often just keep pushing it ad nauseum. There’s no such concept as “OK, enough already” on there.
A bit of humour is fine, but when it drowns out the actual information it’s frustrating.
At the same time it’s shows who you should block. I don’t always remember usernames but I had the top posters like that blocked. Made reddit so much better to use.
Yeah, that is basically what the Karma System was for.
Yeah, I blocked gallowboob years ago, I was just wondering if he left during the reddit exodus or if he’s still there, posting 80% of the front page content. Not gonna go check though…
Was he the bird guy?
That was Unidan. Gallowboob was just a repost karma farmer.
But it also encourages people to generate content. It’s a slippery slope.
What kind of content though? I’d rather have a few good posts a day than all that karma-whoring.
What is karma removed?
All kinds of content. There’s a difference between generating content and karma whoring.
Have an upvote, so as to better game the system stranger.
What Lemmy does with that score is ultimately instance-specific. Over time I expect we’ll see more differentiation between instances in terms of how they treat things like that.
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Fuck the fake internet points. All it does is bring tons of bots and douchebags.
Pretty sure this is just the apps adding up all the upvotes/downvotes you receive and not an actual Lemmy feature.
It’s right in the API: https://join-lemmy.org/api/interfaces/PersonAggregates.html
Returns: comment_count, comment_score, id, person_id, post_count, post_score
I went the other way and configured Liftoff to not show scores anywhere. And to be honest my experience is all the better for it.
I really like this system as a bonus points, a thing you gain from being an active member, I know it can be abused and bring karma-whore, but I really hope they will not remove it in the future.
Agreed. I’m not immune to the rush of seeing a post take off as a bonus reward for contributing. I also find it helpful in communties that deal in factual information as a loose system of trustworthiness.
I think I am the only one that finds karma useful. Albeit my experience is based on Reddit, but I found it handy to check out who are the serial reposters that have huge submission karma and very low comment karma. My RES filter was getting… large.
Lemmy? I dunno. I’m still pretty new here.
Mmm I think you find the ability to determine if a user is a bot on your own to be helpful, but karma itself is useless.
It’s vulnerable to manipulation by coordinated groups/bots.
Karma is an artificial means to quantify value of a post. I think we need a better way than a voting system (I’m gonna say it: Machine Learning)
It’s not only for bot accounts, but super-users like Gallowboob on reddit, who was basically a serial reposter/karma farmer. My feed got significantly better once I blocked him.
Yep precisely. I don’t want to see content based off of votes, voting systems exclude those tiny guys that weren’t popular at the time who might have somethin neat.
Buuuut now we get into echo chamber territory and content/feed addiction if it’s too good.
Idk man tough topic
IMO voting definitely had its uses, having a guage of whether people do/dont like stuff can be nice. and for seeing content, there are multiple different feed types, i assume only the top sorting is the only one to exclusively use votes, idk how hot/active work but it seems like active cares more about comments and overall interaction and hot is more about votes?
I think you might’ve misunderstood where I was going with my point. I think value should be derived person by person, not by quantities.
Voting is a means to measure “mass” opinion. That doesn’t mean it’s the majority opinion (think bots and people who would want to sway a vote just to cause chaos and not to reflect what they want). It’s not a reliable way to get real peoples opinions because it’s naturally vulnerable to mass disruption
You just wanted to show off your post score, didn’t you?
