Happened to me a few days ago, and I just can’t believe how bad this redesign is!!

It’s hard to comprehend what goes into the heads of that dev team, but they basically ruined everything nice about the platform. The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already, but this new redesign seems to be what tipped the scales for me, and hopefully many more.

It’s a great time to switch to Lemmy, and I think I’m going to make the effort to stick around and abandon the habit of opening reddit multiple times per day.

Do you think forcing this re-design will bring more people here? I’m hoping for that. Reddit betrayed us and I can’t find it me to keep forgiving them for every horrible, anti-user decision.

I noticed in some moderator subreddit, that it is planned to kill new.reddit.com as well. Old will likely stay for longer, but new is what I got used to, and if they take it down I won’t bother getting used to the newer, garbage UX.

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    Many won’t leave no matter what happens.

    Some have left already.

    Everyone else is somewhere in-between.

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    Based on the stats of a sub I have access to, old Reddit has been on a slow decline for a long time and just isn’t that significant of a % of people.

    So no, I seriously doubt this will have an impact.

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      Counterpoint: the moderation teams for the bulk of the most popular subs have flat out said that they cannot do their jobs without old.reddit, and the Admins (for what its worth) seem to have acknowledged that. I think old.reddit may get perpetually frozen with no new features added, but removing it outright seems unlikely.

      Of course, them just closing their API entirely seemed unlikely too, so…

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        Counter-counter point: Reddit got rid of a lot of the mods that would be problematic to deal with for big changes and it didn’t really impact the site.

        I say this as a mod who bounced

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          It impacted the quality of the site. However they don’t care about quality only about money or the appearance of making money.

          They want is the investors to look at the site, see all the shitty ads, the number of claimed users and believe it’s worth pouring money into the IPO.

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            As much as I don’t want to, I have to give a very very hard disagree on the quality decline. Sure, the couple of months after the sub shutdowns it was bad but stuff seemed to more or less bounce back.

            I don’t count “All”, or any of the major ones like News, Politics, etc. I’m talking local, hobbies, and a few brands-of-device subs. Questions get asked, they get answered. There’s still a lot of timely breaking-news discussion.

            But hey, if they want to contribute free work to pump up the value of a site where they won’t get a dime, they can go crazy. That’s why we’re over here and they are welcome to join us anytime.

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    The redesign was garbage ux from the start and they ignored absolutely all feedback for years. It was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning and they buried their heads in the sand because they knew most people would still use it.

    Most people seemed to use the official app anyway, which is even worse, so I don’t see many people changing over this. I was one of the people who said when old Reddit was gone so was I, I just didn’t expect them to do something worse before that time came.

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      Won’t change much. Look at OP, complaining about the betrayal and going back several times a day. Old habits are hard to break.

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        It’s not habit, it’s that there are many things on Reddit that are not on Lemmy in any meaningful sense yet. I use reddit for those communities that don’t exist here and I don’t feel like quitting, but Lemmy gets my full attention for everything else.

        Using both platforms at once is more about necessity and patience. Lemmy will grow, I’m certain of that, but I’m not going to pretend it’s anywhere near active enough yet to fully replace every aspect of reddit. It will, but it isn’t there yet.

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          Same. I tried to quit (and even deleted my account) but realized that the Lemmy equivalent of my home city community isn’t yet on here (and there’s also a buy nothing subreddit that’s been helpful for getting baby stuff). I use RedReader and I’m only subscribed to three local subreddits.

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        When RiF broke I never went back, i need lemmy to prosper or I will be out of doomscrolling app

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          What app do you use to browse on mobile? I’m using Memmy but had trouble posting.

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          Honestly I kind of like that lemmy has less content at the moment. When I’ve seen everything I’m interested in I close it and do something else, rather than doing nothing but scroll.

          Though I do miss the long format text stuff a bit.

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      Their motto seems to consistently be: “Drive out the old users who remember what we used to be. Rein in the new users who embrace the enshitification and change from content aggregation to social media”

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      The hurdle is content. Lemmy has an overflow of politics and mindless memes, but it needs to have more content beyond that to attract people in.

      Everyone who wants Lemmy to succeed should give redditors a reason to stay by posting in some of the smaller and more niche communities.

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        Yet without an audience, it’s just people posting into the void.

        I think we need to accept that we aren’t going to become Reddit pt. 2 anytime soon. Smaller steps might be a good way to go - e.g. if a small sub dedicated to a single game is too small, then post in a medium level one like its genre.

        But also, the main reason I stopped recommending the Fediverse to people - well aside from the fact that nobody was listening:-P - wasn’t just lack of content, and instead mainly bc there are so very many technical glitches. I eventually left Kbin entirely bc it never seemed to progress anywhere, but everywhere I’ve gone on Lemmy, while it has been better, is still far from perfect. For instance, I have to re-login every single time I come here - even on the same day, and sometimes also just randomly while browsing, both mobile browser and also desktop.

        We who are here are okay that it is alpha version software, but the kind of people on Reddit who have remained are not. Consent matters: we haven’t enticed them here, and we need to be okay with that, or else do a LOT better job trying - which will take time and effort, which is underway - and either way it would help to accept the situation as it is not just how we might dream that it could be otherwise.

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          Chicken and the egg. Nobody is posting or commenting because nobody is posting or commenting.

          I’ve decided to ignore waiting for others to post and just post. Some communities I’ve done this in are still voids. Others have actually come to life somewhat. Still slow, but at least other people are now consistently engaging.

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            The one thing I have noticed is the proliferation of overly niche communities rather than congregating in larger hubs and then organizing into smaller communities as the userbase scales.

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              I do believe that was an early mistake made throughout the platform.

              Since it is functionally unreversible, my personal solution has been to try and make networks of these communities by encouraging sidebars to reference each other, share mods, and partake in cross posting.

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        It’s worse than that. The politics is a far left echo chamber which appeals to a small number of chronically online but repels everyone else.

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          I don’t like Trump at all and not a fan of Biden but there are lots of vicious comments to the point where I have felt tempted to just skip the comments on political posts.

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          Lemmy is not much farther left than reddit is.

          Also the younger generations who spend more time on these sites lean left to begin with. They aren’t going to be repelled by people shitting on Biden.

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            I am a leftist who participated on Reddit for more than a decade without any issues, and I catch bans on Lemmy for not being “left” enough. The politics on Lemmy are so far outside anything resembling mainstream, you get bans for daring to quote Jacobin or the fucking internationale.

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    The redesign would be bad if considerably improved. Because as it is now, it’s simply awful.

    Things that they did not get:

    • People might not like a crammed interface, but they certainly don’t like to unnecessarily roll stuff.
    • Desktops typically have a horizontal screen. Vertical space is at premium, but horizontal space is cheap. That leads to “stripes” of content, not to square blocks.
    • “Muh consisrency! Mobile n desktop inrurrfaces must look teh same!” leads to either a shitty mobile interface, a shitty desktop interface, or both. Never neither.
    • If you can guess that a user is using a desktop interface (YES YOU CAN, you spam the shit out of the users if they dare to use the mobile interface), then you can also guess that desktop users won’t “download your appz XD”.
    • Everything else.
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    I actually like the new new Reddit more than the new Reddit that preceded it. Maybe an unpopular opinion. Although I haven’t had time to use it that much yet.

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    I kind of like it more than the current new redesign. It seems to make better use of horizontal space, it doesn’t leave black bars. However, I haven’t tried it on 16:9 screen, but a 20:9.
    What I don’t like is lack of Markdown editor. That new(2) editor is even wose than FancyPants editor of new(1). There’s just three options: GIF (works), Image (worked after spamming it like 100 times) and “T” which is probably for text editing (doesn’t work at all).

    Anyway, am I the only or does it feel like X?

    Disclaimer: I haven’t tried using it, I just checked it for 3 minutes now.

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      I like it too. I wish I could compare it to current reddit, but I can only access it through old interface. And the current reddit is is too addicting to me to justify working around it.

      I kinda hate that I like the sh version cause it will tempt me to sink time there.

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      On Firefox mobile when I click in to a post now the comment dialog has like 10 characters width max.

      If I scroll down at all in a nested chain it quickly goes to 1 character lol

      If I refresh then it somewhat goes back to normal.

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    old reddit the only way to use reddit for me. When it’s gone I will have to waste my time exclusively here.

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      I have a community for a project on Reddit which is the only reason I use it anymore, I’ve tried using new Reddit so many times but it’s so painful that I really think I’m just let the community die if they force me off old