• Anise (they/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    “today the ugliest danger is gender ideology, which cancels out differences”

    Well I’m glad he said the misogynistic part out loud. In a religion in which only men can hold power, blurring the lines between who can be a man undermines their power structure. They see women as inferior chattel and the strict gender binary allows them to enforce their hegemony. I suppose the pope thinks that LGBT* people around the world being murdered and persecuted is a good thing as long as the cis white straight men get to stay in power.

    Your position is a joke, and everyone with 2 brain cells can tell that it can only exist by enslaving half of the population and trying to murder another 2%. Like any good tiny dictator, you don’t inspire respect for people to follow you, you reach for the cudgel of violence, and make no mistake, your words inspire violence just as much as if you lit the torches yourself. Your god will judge you accordingly.

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      No no no you don’t understand.

      When you diddle a kid, it only scars them mentally, which is like only a couple thousands affected. There’s only so many pastors.

      But when you teach them about gender, who knows how many of millions of kids are affected.

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    Pope Francis: ”Today the ugliest danger is gender ideology, which cancels out differences … Erasing differences is erasing humanity.”

    St. Paul: ”There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Jesus Christ.”

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          It’s actually a message that all are welcome to be baptized, but people love to quote it out of context for the issue du jour.

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        The message was that Christian’s shouldn’t look down on slaves or see them as any lesser. I see it as calling people to act as John Brown, to not only free the slaves but to look at them as one’s full equals

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          Except for all the verses on how to properly punish and manage your slaves as well as detailing how slaves must serve their masters.

          The book has a detailed record of how it considers slaves different from people.

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            Not disagreeing that it’s a contradictory mess. It’s why sola scriptura is a ridiculous theology that can justify anything and that even tradition doesn’t fix it. But also that’s the vibe I got from that epistle. Though if it was written by Paul I probably misinterpreted it, but iirc it wasn’t wasn’t one of the Pauline epistles.

            ETA: it looks like it’s the first of Paul’s letters. Paul was weird. Early Christianity basically took an extremely egalitarian stance, but Paul contributed romanization of it and implemented a lot of the misogyny, justification of power, etc that we all know and hate about Christianity. That wave was where Christianity went from what today we would consider an internationalist anarcho communist movement packaged in a religious cult and began the dismantling of the revolutionary elements of it into a religion where the most progressive leader in centuries is condemning transness as a concept and bars women from the priesthood. A religion that left the pacifism it began with and became the state religion of the Roman Empire without actually changing the Roman Empire’s cultural rules. Where certain things the cultists would’ve likely been more accepting of than Roman pagans became condemned as pagan and anti Christianity.

            And it’s important to remember this only happened because Jesus if he was real and accurately recorded, was likely a man suffering the beginnings of a mental illness while preaching.

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              It’s why sola scriptura is a ridiculous theology that can justify anything

              Fun fact, in formal logic once you accept a contradiction, you can literally prove anything.

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      Came here looking for someone to have quoted this. I quote it to bigots all the time and it straight pisses them off.

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          Good use for it! My best friend is a former Baptist preacher who still occasionally preaches at different churches, and he likes to use it whenever that comes up.

          Mind if I ask if it was a religious ceremony?

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            Not really, but both grooms gave me a verse to read and they pretty much gave me carte blanche for the rest of the ceremony.

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              I love the idea of an officiant with total free reign. “You may now kiss… The grooms mother on the cheek. … Just playing, y’all. They gonna dance. Dance, boys!”

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    Focusing the Friday morning address on the “anthropological crisis and the necessary promotion of human and Christian vocations,” Pope Francis said this task is challenged by myriad social challenges arising from the cultural zeitgeist, including gender ideology.

    Highlighting the anthropological angle of the conference, the pope pointed to “an elementary and fundamental truth, which today we need to rediscover in all its beauty: The life of the human being is a vocation.”

    The pope emphasized that this is a foundational element “which underlies every call within the community” and “has to do with an essential characteristic of the human being as such.”

    What the fuck does this even mean?

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    That’s RIGHT! GENDER IDEOLOGY is the Ugliest Danger! Says the man who Protects Child Abusers!

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      But think of the clergymen who are diddling boys that might accidentally diddle a trans boy! They might get PTSD or something! 😢

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    Trans people are the biggest issue right now, says group with a paedophile problem.

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      Imo “,the trans issue” is cut and dry. Be who you want, do what you want. Doesn’t affect me, or anyone else.

      I’m starting to take an issue with everyone who isn’t trans though, and how weirdly obsessive and angry everyone iand their mother is about an issue that doesn’t affect a vast majority of the population.

      I get that people can care about more than one issue at once. But wage inequality, homelessness, war, genocide,declining standards of living, student loans - there are so many issues that deserve our collective consideration and action on more.

      It’s a non issue. What other people do to themselves and how they present themselves is their business. Its not that these issues don’t matter, they do, but we have bigger fish to fry and while I’m personally glad to see such a widespread desire to advance causes like this I can’t help but feel like the time so many people spend bickering online about it is time that could be better spent offline doing things that would advance these causes anyway.

      And it doesn’t help that the time spent bickering isn’t even productive. It’s just people who already agree withe sch otherr aggressively reinforcing each others,’ beliefs to the point of militancy.

      I’m not allowed to have opinions on the subject, and I largely don’t because it really doesn’t affect me snd I’m already in support of people being able to live how they choose anyway, but I’m bombarded with posts about the issue wherever I go, and I’m ju#t so fatigued by how little it matters on the grand scale of things, while being sensitive to how it can be the most important things of the world to some people.

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        On the left, it’s due to intersectionality. And that the attacks against trans people is part of a broader attack from the christofascists to create outgroups and use hate and fear to obtain power (very similar to what the Nazis did with “degenerates” and jews). “First they came for…” and all that.

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        Yes, this. I wore makeup and spent all day in the wood shop yesterday. We better burn down society so that isn’t allowed. Never mind that the world is literally burning and homelessness is rampant even in the richest cities. Don’t look at that, look over here at the queer person!

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    Welp so much for the woke pope. Literally blaming your problems on the minority of a minority.

    Human suffering in Palestine?
    Ukraine? Africa? Global warming? The rise of fascism?

    Nah, better go after personal freedoms.

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    Transgendered people are an abomination, but fuckin a kid? Now, well, that’s just god’s will.

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    Wasn’t he the one to come out in support of homosexuality? Or was it just to justify the morality behind diddling little boys?