I want to give a card to one of my teachers and wanted to decorate it personally, I have never been into painting, but I don’t want to get anyone else to paint for me. Wish me Luck

  • virku@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    10 months ago

    Never seen water colors not in blocks but in tubes before. Are those fancy water colors, or am I just uninformed?

    • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      I have no idea as well lol, I saw some videos on YT and they were tubes though. Ig there might be other kinds, but I just picked the ones that seemed familiar

    • Duranie@literature.cafeEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      I’ve played around with both tubes and dry “blocks”. For best of both worlds, you can get palettes that come in a box with removable sections that can be filled with whatever color paint. I filled these with paint from tubes, and by keeping the box closed it will mostly retain moisture of the paint while storing. If left long enough they will dry out, but being water colors, I just mist them with water and they work again.

      The one I have is basically like this https://a.co/d/j4TrTo6 .

      Also - you can get brushes that hold water! It’s basically a brush with a water chamber, and you squeeze it to put more water into the bristles. Makes it easy to travel, but for me it’s far less messy and keeps the colors cleaner.

  • Maco1969@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    10 months ago

    Don’t worry about the quality of the paint, I grew up using cheap Chinese water paints and it was OK.

  • scrion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    10 months ago

    You know what, this post is great for not only one, but two reasons: you decided to do something nice for another person, and you are getting to try a new skill in the process.

    Both things make me happy for you. Have fun!

    • pseudo@jlai.luEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      How are there stored usually? I’ve seen plenty of watercolors tubes my whole life. It is no surprise to me.

      • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Dried reservoirs of paint in a pallette you mix a little water into are the only kind I’ve seen up till now.

        Something like this:

        • pseudo@jlai.luEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          I’ve known both but the dried version cannot easily be turned into paste but the paste in tube can be diluted further down to get this watery color.

          • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I’ve never seen or heard of the tubes before, I assume because I don’t regularly paint.

            Are they recently popular or did you use them as a kid?

            • pseudo@jlai.luEnglish
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              10 months ago

              I used them as kids. Especially in art classes but for home painting, giving a kid the dried ones is more common. I assume it is because it is easier to store and to wash if when the kid put paint everywhere.

    • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      One thing was how fricking cheap they are, idk anything about quality, will have to see when I try but still, also there were others like this but half the price

      • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        Nice. That’s a good score.

        I don’t know anything about watercolors quality either, but you should post again later and let us know how it went

        • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Tbh, if anything is gonna fail, it’s my painting lol, but there are always colour pencils which are never gonna fail, but I really wanted to try something else

          I think I am just gonna draw some gradients and stuff instead of something complicated

          • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            10 months ago

            Cool. I always liked colored pencils, but I can never get them to do what I wanted.

            Not that I practiced enough in the first place of course.

            I tend toward simple lines and drawing comics more, I love black and white ink line drawings

            • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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              10 months ago

              I also feel like they might not be great if you wanna make something more than simple drawings/colorings

              • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                10 months ago

                Colored pencils?

                Yeah, I don’t think I ever got passed crude brontosauruses and t-Rexes with those.

                But boy, was there an excess of dinosaur coloring going on, haha.

                Oh and one detailed gryphon in 9th grade.

                Actually, I remember that this one gryphon turned out so well that I stopped used coloring pencils afterwards haha.

                Like I thought to myself " All right, I’ve reached the peak of my craft. Time to move on."

  • Grayox@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    10 months ago

    If you dont like the medium please dont hesitate to try out oil painting, it is Sooooooo much more forgiving than watercolors. Either way good luck with your art journey!!

  • aequitas@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    10 months ago

    These don’t look like water colors to me. Normally water is shades of blue. Unless you want to paint near an industrial waste site, then these colors are probably fine.

  • Ludrol@szmer.infoEnglish
    5·
    10 months ago

    Your personal journey about that card is really sweet (Thanks for sharing it with us). Can’t wait for the finale.

    Be careful about the paper. Make sure to use the tape to tension the paper so there won’t be any wrinkles and consider buying paper made specifically for watercolors.

    • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      There isn’t really anyone else to share with, so the internet it is

      And yeah I am seriously considering getting specific papers, it seems like normal ones get a little weird with water

      Edit: Also yeah I would want to share what happens, but I feel a lot of context will be needed for a post of that kind to make sense, will see

    • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      10 months ago

      Just fyi, OP , if you end up with a seriously buckled end result because water + paper = warp, please know that you really can iron it out. Do this BEFORE you seal the surface:

      Put some plain paper on your ironing board, lay your painting face down, and use a low to medium heat setting (start with low and work up if you need to). Iron until flat. It will not hurt your watercolor painting at all. If you’re unsure, there are videos on Youtube.

      However, a word of warning: if you’re doing mixed media, keep in mind that some materials will melt and smear (embossing powder, crayons, colored pencils, etc) but not regular pencil (graphite), charcoal, or marker. My suggestion would be to do your watercolors first (which is usually how it works out anyway) and iron if necessary, and then proceed to your other media.

      And as long as I have your attention, don’t let anyone shame your beginning supplies. Everyone starts small, because that stuff can get truly expensive.

      And for as many snotty Youtube watercolor videos I’ve seen titled “It’s Not Your Fault, It’s Your Paper!” and similar, I have news for them and you: cheap supplies are how you learn to work with any supplies you have, especially paper. Cheap paper is what shows you how to get the very best out of any paper you can buy, regardless of price range. There is one famous watercolorist, Winslow Homer, who regularly used the really bad paper he snagged from his job as a mapmaker for watercolor paintings that now hang in museums and sell for millions.

      So if all you have today is copy paper, rock it! As you progress, you’ll be glad you stretched your knowledge this way. I still use the beginner stuff I have along with the more expensive stuff I got later, and honestly I prefer the less expensive stuff for certain projects.

      I love watercolors. So fun. You’re gonna have a fantastic time, OP.

      • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Thanks a lot, I actually went a step down and used old A4 sheets that were printed on one side lol, just because I always feel guilty wasting perfectly good papers, I will buy better ones for the actual thing though

        • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 months ago

          I always feel guilty wasting perfectly good papers

          Lol, me too. But if you can, watch some older artists on Youtube: more expensive papers just make certain things easier. Cheap papers make the same thing harder – NOT impossible.

          That’s how cheap paper builds your skill: you’re forced to pay sharp attention to the dampness of the paper, the exact sheen of it in the light, to know when it’s ready for a blend or a scrape (where you scratch into wet paper to either create dark lines if it’s wetter or remove paint if it’s drier), etc.

          I don’t know if you’re in the US but the paper I like most for watercolor is also one of the least expensive: Canson XL watercolor paper. It’s a nice, heavy 300g that takes a good bit of abuse from scratching, scrubbing, lifting, and pretty much anything else I want to do. ALL watercolor paper will buckle, but the heavier weights keep it to a minimum, and 300g is an all-around great weight (heavier weights are professional use and tend to get really expensive). Arteza I have also heard good things about, inexpensive and good, but Canson’s usually at the Walmart so I can just get some whenever I’m there and avoid Amazon, lol.

          For painting boards, I save and use the clean tops of pizza boxes, lol. Any clean stiff cardboard will do, turn it over and use the plain backside so there’s no visual confusion, and cheap masking tape or washi to hold it down if you don’t feel like freestyling it, lol. For the copy paper practice I wouldn’t even worry about that, any tape you want to use. (You can also use scotch tape if you weaken the hold on it a bit by taping across your clothes before you put it on your paper, if you’re in a pinch and need a removable tape.)

          Your watercolors came in a tray; that’s also a paint mixing tray. Take the paint tubes out while you’re painting and then rinse it afterwards to use for tube storage again. And use any old plastic container for water, etc. Now you’re all set!

        • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          10 months ago

          Sure. When your watercolor painting dries, it’s perfect as-is, and you need do nothing more, especially if you know it’s going in a drawer or a frame or even in a pile of other watercolors in the corner, lol. However, it will react with any kind of moisture, because that’s what watercolors do. If your watercolor work gets wet or is in a really high humidity area, touching it or allowing it to touch anything else will smear the paint.

          So if you have some work you really like and want to protect when it’s done, you can use a surface fixative (usually a spray) to protect it from moisture. But greeting cards don’t usually see a lot of water or humidity, so it’s up to you. It will not be obvious either way: fixatives are completely invisible to the eye until water is involved and then it’s pretty obvious what’s been sealed and what hasn’t been, lol.

          I have a couple watercolor paintings hanging in my bathroom, for example, but it’s not a problem because I sealed them with a surface fixative as well as Dorland’s (a wax made specifically for artwork) and they’re behind glass, so the occasionally high humidity in there doesn’t matter at all. But that’s kind of an extreme case.

          Fixatives are pretty cheap and a little goes a long way, but it’s up to you as to whether you want to use one. If you do, just remember that the fixative is the very LAST thing you put on, because you usually can’t work the painting after you’ve done it. (There are “workable” fixatives that you can put on and then still add to your work, but just how “workable” they are really depends on the specific fixative and the specific media you’re using, so don’t count on it.)

          You said you are making cards; IMO you would be fine leaving your work as-is or sealing them. Honestly either way is fine, your choice. But if you do use one, make the fixative the very LAST thing you do to your art, at least until you have a chance to experiment with any fixative you buy. And of course, do any ironing prior. Hope this helps.

          • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            2·
            10 months ago

            Thanks a lot for the detailed info, the card is probably gonna go in a drawer, but this thing might be useful for other stuff

    • fastandcurious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      I tried like 4 times but I always messed up something, so it’s gonna be a long time before I post anything lol

      • Okokimup@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        If you don’t want to share, at least keep photos for yourself. It Will be cool and useful for you in the future to look back at how your work has progressed or changed.

          • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            10 months ago

            This is the mess I made, looks pretty horrific lol, I dropped some color as well

            Noooooo! What you see as mess, I see as courage with exploring colors, shapes, and composition, and learning how to mix, layer, and blend with watercolor. Some of what you just did by accident, like the red/yellow blend and drip to the right, other artists deliberately add as “texture” and “interest” and work very hard to get. Just wait til you start making cabbages and getting blooms (the weird dark lines you get from puddling water in one place). People work to get those too. It’s just a matter of getting them where you want them to be, which is a whole 'nother matter, lol.

            This is a great start. Keep going!

          • Okokimup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            One could say that art in general is an act of making messes. That looks like a beautiful experiment in color. I’m new to painting myself. I’ve found some inspiration in the youtube channel Imperfect Paintings. You might find it inspiring as well.