• Trebach@kbin.social
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    Before anyone mentions 0x0.st or ttm.sh as alternatives, both of them will delete your files within a year of being uploaded so do not use them for anything permanent.

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    I guess save it so that the actual image is rotated, not just via some metadata telling the viewer to do it.

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    Can somebody explain on the purpose of these sites?

    The whole time when I was using reddit I would just upload from my gallery to the app, never had to use an image uploader website, it sounds like a pain to use.

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      That’s because you arrived when reddit already had its image hosting.
      Before you could only upload a link, so you had to find a hosting site.
      It’d be the same if lemmy didn’t have one.
      And in fact it’s like that for me, I didn’t configured pict-rs, so I can’t upload images to my lemmy instance, I need to configure it or use a hosting site.

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        Wow image-hosting is a thing. Why don’t they just have something so essential out of the box, is it expensive or something

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          Short answer is yes. Long answer is that with text it’s much easier to stamp out illegal activity because keyword searches are cheap while semantic searches in images are pretty good but extremely computationally expensive. You can’t just scan for illegal activity in images the same way you can nigh instantly scan a body of text for “illegal-site.com”.

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            That makes a certain kind of sense but does that mean the filtering algorithm Facebook uses that targets NSFW photos in posts and group chats is very complicated and expensive? is it important for a site like reddit or Lemmy to scan for illegal activities oj a photo?

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          It requires a lot of storage space. Much more than for just text.

          Also, additional liability for hosting images uploaded by literally anyone, that could depict abuse, or be copyrighted.

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      Using them do add one or two extra steps before posting. Images can hog up server resources and using these third-party sites reduces the burden for the server of your instance which is run by volunteers/hobbyists with money often coming from their own pockets. Its just a nice thing to voluntarily do.

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        On the other hand, it’s great that some instances have file size limits. It forces users to look at these image hosts instead of them just recklessly uploading images into the servers as if Lemmy is housed in a Palo Alto facility.

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    It’s kind of crazy how these popular services are always insistent on killing themselves off with these horrible changes.

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      Those services are seldom profitable. Especially as they get larger, their costs rise. Meanwhile, imgur, as a service that provides embedded content, has little opportunity to make money off of their users. They rely on infinite growth and ever more people investing money into them to keep financially viable.

      But there is no infinite growth and imgur has reached its limits. Now they need to bind users to their platform and rely on ad revenue. So old content gets purged, along with nsfw content, in order to entice advertisers.

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        The issue with that though is that they end up removing what made them popular to begin with, so then they lose their popularity and traffic and then they are worth nothing again lol

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    I think imgchest.com deserves more recognition. It has a UI that’s a lot like old imgur, doesn’t compress the hell out of images and the person that runs it seems pretty cool.

    (I’ve also talked to the person who runs postimages, and they seem pretty cool to fwiw.)

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      I will have to test this manually across sites to know because none of them advertises themselves as doing this. But nevertheless, the best practice would be to strip down such data yourselves before uploading. There are many apps that will allow you to easily do that.

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      NOT postimages certainly ,that lights it up like a christmas tree (except ironically in the the preview I used to try to work out if it did)

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        The ‘catch’ is that running a service like this gets expensive fast and it’s the same with all the free image hosting sites.

        Catbox is run entirely by donations with anything left covered by the owner out of their own pocket. If the donations dry up, it will eventually have to shut down. Again, this isn’t unique to Catbox, all the free sites could easily suffer the same fate.

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        There are files I’ve uploaded to them since their service started that are still there.

        After a while, files go into a “cold storage” and there’s a wait until the server retrieves it.

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    Imgur hates my guts anyways. They are based on easily ignitable populism and then its people wonders why everyone acts like they’ve burnt all their bridges.

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    I’ve been looking for a service that uses IPFS to get a more distributed solution in place. Although you need an HTTP proxy for anyone that doesn’t have the plugin or use a browser with support built in. There’s a service called Pinata, but it only lets you upload 100 files for free

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      IPFS (or similar tech) is the only sustainable solution for media hosting on federated platforms.

      Permanence is important - old posts with dead media links is bad for society - but we can’t expect volunteer instance admins to be held responsible for something as complex and expensive as that.

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        While somewhat correct it still needs someone hosting your data, even if it’s you.

        Slightly off-topic:

        I never get why Ipfs is using these false claims about “uploading” to the Ipfs and having it “permanently” stored. In reality it’s just Torrent, someone has to have the file - if no one has, there is no file. In theory one could make the same file available again in the future but all the hashing settings have to match with the previous or you’ll get a different reference hash.

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        The hardest part will always be moderation. It will be incredibly difficult to prevent smut and CSAM propagating without people actively monitoring what content is being hosted. But even if you assume random people have the time and are ok with seeing and reporting/filtering out that content, you’ll still never combat advanced cryptographic steganography techniques; a picture of a flower might have content hidden inside it somehow that encodes the bad content in a way that you’ll never find it. On top of that, moderation is work that no one wants to do for random content they don’t care about, but without people hosting content they don’t care about, links will die too quickly to be useful. Imagine if you posted an image to a niche community, and then had to keep your system on for hours, days, or weeks, ready to seed it to the one lurker who happens across it, and then maybe they also seed it.

        tl;dr it’s a very difficult problem…but honestly maybe AI breakthroughs can help with it

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    I like that imgur removes exif data, any recommendations that do that too?

    I took a look at a few posted and they don’t appear to do so.