The sad existence of the Hater.
Fair enough. Honestly both of them are rather irrelevant to me because I don’t use microblogging social media platforms, so I have no stake in the fight.
That’s a naive position. The fact that so many other people use those services means you will be made to care because of their influence on politics etc. Oligarchs like Musk and Zuckerberg having disproportionate control over the public discourse is a threat to you whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
I live in a Capitalist nation. The ultra-wealthy have held disproportionate control over mass media here for as long as it has existed, and ultimately whether Zuckerberg or Musk win their stupid competition over microblogging honestly won’t impact me one way or another. Obviously their right-wing beliefs impact me, and their messaging will generally make politics in the U.S. worse, but this is a genuinely a case where they’re both bad and I’m not sure who’s worse, so why take a side in the Threads vs. Twitter discourse when I use neither? I like Mastadon as an idea and I think it has good features, but microblogging generally does better with more centralization because it puts all of the influencers, celebrities, and politicians in one place, and normies seem to find Mastadon’s federation confusing, so it hasn’t taken off.
Right, they’re both awful. But that doesn’t mean they’re irrelevant to you. Unfortunately.
Fuck Elmo but I just don’t want Meta to replace Twitter’s social media niche. I would prefer if Mastodon would be the next “Twitter” but at this point I would be okay with Bluesky too. The Meta cancer is already big enough and has too much influence.
I think everyone in the ActivityPub hopes Mastodon is the next Twitter but other than that, it’s a tie between the all three. I think Bluesky has the best chance since it has the cleanest plate but it’ll absolute turn into a shit hole like the rest.
Cohost would be cool.
yeah people are giving too much power to a single company.
I’d rather have a moderated site replace Twitter at this point, even if it’s run by Meta. My first choice is for an intuitive non-Meta alternative to rise to prominence, ideally in the fediverse, but I think Mastodon had its chance and its unintuitive nature was too challenging for a critical mass of lay people. It needs to be: sign up, start posting. Instead it’s: sign up, choose your server. Huh? You’re already losing people.
All this has already been covered but it has to be simple and intuitive and that’s what Threads is offering and Mastodon isn’t.
Exactly this. Anything too challenging for a third-, grader is done before it starts in terms of mass acceptance.
Would you happen to have an invite code?
Yeah and one for a friend too?
but why use threads when you could use mastodon? When threads enters the fediverse it is like the ad free version of threads (from a threads user perspective)
As someone who never liked Facebook…not a particular fan if Zucker wins.
*poke
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.
There’s a lot of wisdom in that.
No. Meta needs to die.
On one hand, competition is usually good for the end user.
On the other hand, we have such a better platform for users on the fediverse that I’m not really invested in what either of these weirdos do.
The enemy of my enemy type stuff.
still don’t want zucc to win, tho
I think the funniest part of this whole thing is how Musk insists Meta MUST have poached employees from Twitter, as if Twitter has this revolutionary sauce that just can’t be replicated at all.
Bluesky is even closer to Twitter’s UI than Threads and I don’t see Musk bitching about it at all.Trading one asshole billionaire for another is a losing game. The only losers are users of these services.
It’s like two giant Mecha robots fighting while a crowd of fans of one or the other are cheering on the ground and being squished.
ngl, i’d rather twitter wins since it’s imploding already so it will hardly survive for much time after it beats threads down
Why not both? Can’t we hope enough stuff leaves twitter to hasten it’s demise and that threads implodes after a short period of over inflated reports of success?
Yeah there’s nobody taking the Zucc down a peg. Dudes a literal machine.
Musk > Zuck
Based
What has the world come to when people actually think Zuckerberg is the lesser of two evils.
Musk is starting to look like a bit of an asshole, but Zuckerberg is the king of assholes.
Where would the EV market be without Musk buying Tesla? The Prius hybrid would probably still be the most electric thing on the market.
Where would private space exploration without his founding of SpaceX? We would still be waiting for the next US President to cancel their predecessor’s NASA plans and make new plans.
Where would be without Zuckerberg? Probably using a myspace clone with a lot more UI flexibility and crazy banner ads.
Musk put self-driving EV cars on the road and William Shatner in space. Zuckerberg convinced people to give them their data then monetized it and used that knowledge against them.
My opinion on that is that someone would’ve done what musk have money for at some point as well. All of those companies were mostly rehashed concepts that became viable due to faster computers, better materials, and better battery technology. I usually don’t say this about actual inventions made by scientists and engineers, but most of the time billionaires just provide a concept and daddy’s money and that really doesn’t take a lot of skills that I think are worth anything.
Your “opinion” is just the regurgitation of a programmable monkey, playing back rage bait written by journalists on repeat.
That is the thing though, everyone knew someone should be doing what Musk did but no one with real money actually was. Even if he is just the money and the direction and doesn’t help figure a single thing out, he is still the driving force.
Should he be necessary in a perfect society? Of course not. In the society we have though, he was instrumental in pointing Space Travel, EV, and to a lesser degree self-driving in the direction many people were hoping it would go.
The reality is that after he became wealthy enough for most people to want to retire he risked it all to do a couple of good things at an important time. Even if he only did it for the chance to make more money, I am still glad he did it.
