Hm, strange. I wonder if there’s anything we can do about it?
Nope. The shareholders are in needing of a 5th yacht
Hottest I’ve ever been in is 114f iirc in a dry heat. It was brutal like “you can feel moisture evaporating out of your eyes”, I felt like just sitting around I couldn’t drink water as fast as I was losing it. 125 is bonkers
50C is near OSHA’s max limit to touch safe zones which is 60C. At 60C, no matter how many seconds, you will get burnt. At 50C you can hold an object for a few seconds safely.
But also keep in mind that it’s usually air temperature being measured, with surface temperatures being even worse than that!
50C is near 60C
Nnno…
You know how 0C is far from 60C but you can easily experience 0C in a winter? Well check it out, 50C is closer to 60C by about 50C difference from 0C. This 50C tends to be near 60C when compared to 0C and really 49 other whole numbers of degrees Celsius! An infinity of numbers if you add decimal places.
That’s a very… interesting way to think about it.
Nah, more SUVs
I mean yes, but no.
Try corporate factories and industrial farms.
nah, try transportation and personal vehicles https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
Greenhouse gas emissions from transportation primarily come from burning fossil fuel for cars, trucks, ships, trains, and planes.
That’s one hell of a grouping. I’d wager that the majority of that is commercial and factory bullshit.
Nope, majority is personal vehicles https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/fast-facts-transportation-greenhouse-gas-emissions
I’m with you, but it’s not the SUVs that are causing the problem, it’s the fucking corporations that contribute over 80% of the harmful emissions.
But fuck SUVs and big ass trucks.
it’s not the SUVs that are causing the problem, it’s the fucking corporations
The corporations are the ones that block mass transit infrastructure and extract subsidies for increasingly oversized vehicles. American car companies basically don’t bother making sedans anymore.
I don’t think there’s a bright line between the two problems. More SUVs = Corporate profit $$$ = More lobbying = No Mass Transit = More SUVs
What do this corporations do to cause 80% of emissions? Just burn it for fun?
No. They make products and services that people buy. Making out people play no part in this doesn’t help anyone.
I mean like, duh?
I find it fascinated… one side of their mouth, they’re hating corporations. Other side, they’re praising the product(s) they buy from said corporations. If any of these so called, “combatants of climate change” were true to their beliefs, they’d go find a piece of wilderness and live in it.
Just burn it for fun?
The degree to which businesses prioritize political patronage over economic efficiency can’t be overstated. From Shitcoins to Big Box Retailers, we expend enormous amounts of carbon in pursuit of flights of fancy.
And all those private jets and helicopters out to remote ecologically preserved vacation spots could definitely be defined as “burning fossil fuels for fun”.
It’s not just “they make products and services that people buy”, it’s that “they maximize their personal profit at the expense of people and the environment”.
It’s easy but reductive to blame consumers for consuming, when it’s worth noting that biodegradable packaging costs more than plastics that will never break down, so corporations will choose cheap plastic over environmentally friendly packaging 99.9% of the time.
The incentives are wrong. Instead of maximizing profit we need to ensure that profit is not maximized at the expense of sustainability, at the expense of pollution, and at the expense of the entire future of our planet.
That’s a government issue.
E.g. a carbon tax will solve a lot of problems, or a tax on waste like plastic. It is very very unpopular with the public though so the government can’t put it in place for fear of being voted out.
That’s… Really passing the buck though.
Nothing is stopping corporations from doing The Right Thing right now except their own desire not for profit, but for maximized profit at all costs. Dare I say it, but if a company can’t make a profit without creating harm, it doesn’t deserve to make a profit.
The us government has said corporations are legally required to maximise profit for the shareholders.
Again government issue.
I start to wonder if corporate executives themselves arent responsible for this myth that the meaningful bulk of emissions comes from them. So consumers can feel guilt free about buying these gas guzzling chunkers, after all their choices dont have any meaningful effect on emissions.
But no, corporate headquarters doesnt have a giant smokestack spewing out those corporate emissions you hear about. Those emissions are coming from…SUV tailpipes! Transportation is the highest emissions sector in the US, and personal vehicles make up the bulk of those emissions, especially trucks and SUVs.
Actually, it’s electricity and heating:
https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector
Transportation is number two (by quite a bit) but don’t forget that Transportation of goods is also part of transportation.
Not saying we shouldn’t give up the SUVs, just that maybe we should use less power and heat with something cleaner as well.
I did say in the US. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
Definite agree with the core of what you’re saying, though for US and EU (and to a lesser degree “High income countries”), the numbers are quite close, as clean grid energy is significantly outpacing electric vehicle adoption (and EVs rely on a clean grid to be clean).
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Jesus. Anything over 20c is too much for me. I can’t even fathom what 50c feels like and I hope I never have to experience that.
We adapt. Whenever I have my relatives from Brazil visiting, they’re always wearing coats indoors while I’m wearing short sleeves and shorts. A few years ago, I endured 40-45 C summers.
Pretty sure that this is close to unlivable.
The world will adapt.
Especially when it’s rid of the pesky parasites running around and ruining everything.
Us.
Oh I meant from 20-25C to 40-45. 52C is indeed close to unlivable. And yeah, we’re fucked.
Gotcha. Yeah, there’s a lot of concern over refugees migrating now. Wait a summer or two with these types of temperatures, and countries won’t be able to build fences high enough.
20 is my good spot too, like 24 and I’m dying. We had a heat wave in BC, Canada last couple of yeara and it hit 38-40 most days during the 2 weeks. The amount of sweating and fatique were exhausting. 52 would have killed me.
+20 is too cold for me personally, I prefer +25 to +30. And I’m originally from Northern parts of Europe.
Man, you really like your steak rare.
Edit: Does this show as a gif for anyone else? I’m using sync and that just shows a static picture unless I click on it.
I have to click on when using Boost for Lemmy. Otherwise it looks like a broken font.
Show as a non functional play button for me. Voyager on iOS.
It’s a .webm. Paused video for me.
Huh interesting, it shows up as a gif when I send it as a text, guess I’ll have to upload gifs to a 3rd party website next time.
My bad.
A webm video on firefox.
Comes through as a gif for me on Voyager app fwiw
Does this show as a gif for anyone else? I’m using sync and that just shows a static picture unless I click on it.
Paused (but playable) video on Connect for Lemmy.
Voyager client on Android, autoplayed the autorepeating gif for me.
We need these engineers and doctors in Europe and English speaking countries asap.
Oh… if only the scientists had warned us something like this could happen…
Oh… wait…
Well, if only the scientists had done something bigger and been louder to get everyone’s attention, like saying global warming is bad and self-immolating in a public place to try to warn people we’re all about to die…
Oh… wait…
Well, don’t worry, the magic sky gods will all take us to paradise once it gets too hot, and they lived happily ever after, the end, Yay! 🎈 🎉
Don’t worry Pakistan Greenpeace banned nuclear power and brought back coal, that will save you from the ravages of global warming
lol what… when and where did Greenpeace ban nuclear power and how did they get the authority to do so
Decades of lawsuits and lobbying
hahahaha yeah dude the Greenpeace lobby is so stronk
They just criminalized golden rice so yes.
it’s incredible that you can communicate with us from another universe
Just from South East Asia.
oh yeah that makes sense. i hear Greenpeace has total control in SEA particularly. formidable lot
Greenpeace banned nuclear power and brought back coal
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Centuries of colonial rule
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Decades of military dictatorship
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Enormous domestic fossil fuels and chemicals industry (see: Pakistan’s fuel oil exports surge to record high on muted domestic demand )
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Decades of nuclear non-proliferation policy at the UN driven by fear of rogue states using the weapons to terrorize civilians
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Billions spent on media campaigns to influence fossil fuel policies
You know that small American-based environmental organization that did a few high profile stunts back in the 1970s? They did this.
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Higher temperatures have been recorded last year but I think the heat is starting earlier this year?
Anecdotal, but high temps certainly stared early around here. 92 in May FFS.
Texas had its hottest May in recorded history this year. I have to assume we’re not the only ones.
And yet the UK is cold AF this year…
Shifted jetstream will do that. But while the UK gets an unseasonably cold summer, Alaska is under a historic heat wave. Not enough cold air to go around.
Jetstream? :)
🔥🥵
Genuinely curious. Is it safer to stay inside without AC or go outside in shade? Isn’t the ambient air temperature still too dangerous in the shade?
Anyway whoever starts selling AC to Europe is going to print money.
Is AC not common in Europe?
I’ve never had AC at home, and that’s also the case for most people I know. I live in the south of France.
80-90°F during August. I’d want to have AC for those temps.
Meh, if your house is built correctly, it is not needed. And you also get used to it.
I just use a fan during the night, which does the job without having to use so much electricity.
Depends on the country. A few years ago, there was a heat wave that provoked over 10 deaths in France, while Spain barely registered any despite suffering even harsher temperatures. This is because most homes in Spain have AC, but French ones usually don’t. I would expect this to change in the following decade.
Only in public buildings. We never needed AC with out relatively mild temperature, good insulation and it was seen as a waste of electricity.
In southern parts of Europe maybe. But in Germany for example they are really rare.
I lived in Paris and no one had it besides commercial buildings. But with climate change causing higher temperatures across the region, I think AC modifications of some sort will become the norm. My friend in Spain recently got AC after one summer he had to stay with his friend in Denmark because his house became unlivable. Like it would’ve killed his cat it was so hot inside.
I lived in Phoenix Arizona where 52 C was the peak of the summer heat. I’m not sure how one would have a regular life without AC. Sleeping in that type of heat is very hard.
I had a truck with no AC and driving around with the windows open was like opening a convection oven door and letting the fan blow on you.
Is it safer to stay inside without AC or go outside in shade? Isn’t the ambient air temperature still too dangerous in the shade?
Humidity is a big factor, if humidity is low then evaporative cooling (e.g. sweating) is quite effective. Even more so in a breeze.
Ahhh yeah good point. So somewhere like Pakistan probably has low humidity I’m guessing. Otherwise I feel like being outside at all could be extremely dangerous.
Heck.i work in those temps for 12 hours a pop. Couldnt stand it 24 hrs a day
Hats off to delivery people, soldiers, guards, roadside sellers for not dying in this heat apocalypse
Best keep the hats on, eh
Welcome to Pakistan, we have:
- drunken COAS with nukes
- smog
- the hot
- fresh fruit
mmm fruit
mum nukes
You forgot preying/raping culture like in India. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs
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Let me get a couple smog and a mango actually hold the smog
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Sure hope we don’t get temperatures like this over water for any prolonged period…
What does that mean over water. What can happen
that will hit the limit of your body’s ability to cool itself. a person could die by just being in that weather long enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature?wprov=sfla1
Jesus
…if there is no way to cool externally, with water for example
Which doesn’t work if the air is already saturated. Water cools by evaporating. If the air can’t hold any more water, it can’t evaporate and cool. I mean, external cold water I suppose, but if you have actively cooled water, we’re probably not in a heat crisis situation.
