• Laura@lemmy.ml
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    Ask your american friends how well a war against terrorism works.

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    must be nice. you fund and create hamas to stop the pro peace PLO so that you can use their existence to perpetrate endless war

    epecially when the palestinian authority warned you that calling an election would result in the ascension of hamas to power and israel and the us insisted on the election anyway.

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    30 days ago

    And they assume that the only way to destruct Hamas is killing each and everyone living there.

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    Isnt that exactly what Hamas said???

    How long will we let this butter battle book go on?

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    Incase anyone here is not already aware, the war is causing Hamas. Word is that previously Hamas was caused by Netanyahu’s direct support.

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      This is ridiculous take. Hamas existed before the war and have been a terrorist organization for decades.

      Criticize Israel and the handling of the war all you want, that is fair. But this white washing of Hamas as if they weren’t deranged extremists is just ridiculous.

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        white washing of Hamas

        What? How do you read this as white-washing Hamas? My comment didn’t claim Hamas was ever virtuous, infact it was entirely silent in text on if hams was good or not. I thought it was part of the subtext, but if it’s not clear: Hamas is bad. The reason Netanyahu chose Hamas as his enemy is because they’re evil and hard to cheer for, which makes the genocide easier.

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          I guess I misunderstood. I’ve read a lot of comments on here trying to paint Hamas as some good guy under dog.

          Sorry for the confusion.

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          The reason Netanyahu chose Hamas as his enemy

          That’s also a strange take. He did not choose the ones who arranged the October 7 attack. Same with tons of rockets they built and sent to Israel.

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    Now, now Bibi. You wouldn’t want to be compared to an Austrian art school dropout that orchestrated the death of some your ancestors now would you?

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    So, if that’s true, and Netanyahu helped fund Hamas… Does that make Netanyahu…. Hamas?

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    Do take note that Biden’s proposal from yesterday was supposedly drafted at Netanyahu’s cabinet, according to the US government itself. Netanyahu now opposes their own initiative because he’s decided it’s not convenient for him to end the war just yet. This isn’t some sort of principled attempt to paint himself as the protector of Israel, but a pathetic excuse of a man willing to sacrifice more lives for his own self interest.

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      Biden was lying. He thought that he could pressure Netanyahu to agree, but since so far Israel continued to receive almost full support from the US despite all public talking, Netanyahu knows that Biden is his lapdog.

      Biden has been and wants to continue to support Netanyahu and the genocide. It is only now that he starts fearing people to be fed up with genocide Joe, that he needs to do something about it. But he completely underestimates that the people aren’t stupid and they have learned so much about the reality of Israel and the US that just building a Pier for aid that didnt deliver more than one shipment doesn’t cut it. Biden is an old man that is unable to face new realities and understand that people don’t perceive the world along his entrenched convictions. He said it himself. He is a Zionist and he wants to always support Zionism. He just struggles to understand why progressive Americans are not fine with mass murder of brown people anymore.

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        He thought that he could pressure Netanyahu to agree

        Biden has been and wants to continue to support Netanyahu and the genocide.

        At least pick a goddamn story that makes sense. This is insulting.

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          He wants a Netanyahu to agree to a temporary ceasefire to get some breathing room for his election campaign. He wants things to continue afterwards, when managed to distract people from the topic.

          How is that so complicated to understand? It is the same kind of stunt like with the holding back one shipment of bombs and then delivering $ 17,000,000,000 more of weapons to Israel to continue the slaughter.

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      Biden’s proposal from yesterday was supposedly drafted at Netanyahu’s cabinet, according to the US government itself.

      Source on that? It’s interesting that you say “supposedly…according to the US government itself.” If the government says something, usually it’s easily verifiable.

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        Dude, chill. I’m on your side.

        I think eliminating all of Hamas is a practical impossibility without eliminating essentially all Palestinians, because Israel has shown us again and again that it’s unable or unwilling to to fight Hamas without killing any civilians who happen to be near them. And even if that were not the case, I think Netanyahu would gladly kill every last Palestinian under the pretense of eliminating Hamas.

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    If he wants to destroy Hamas, what’s the plan for someone else to take over after Hamas? Oh right, there is no plan for that. Whenever this war ends, Hamas will still be there and more powerful than ever, because that’s exactly the strategy that is Israel is (wittingly or unwittingly) following.

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    See Also: The War on Drugs, The War on Terror.

    Because those went well. Big success story.

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      Vietnam

      Al Qaida

      Even the US COVID response…

      All were stopped eventually because the US government got bored and wanted to do something else. No winners. Only losers.

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    I’m afraid at this point it’s obvious it’s the other way around, and there is no end to the Gaza war until Israel is dismantled, its leaders are given the Gaddafi treatment, its settlers are hung and Palestine is restored.

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      I hope you realize that you in your comment advocated for the killing of at least half a million people.

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      That’s what the Arab league has been saying for 70 years, people are finally listening to muslims now it seams